* [9fans] Postscript and troff [not found] ` <CAJDwFdijDm7op4hKtLKBEcctJs_YHcVuF7oa+Abe+_L8vHvMvQ@mail.gmail.com> @ 2017-05-02 3:44 ` Prof Brucee 2017-05-02 8:59 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Prof Brucee @ 2017-05-02 3:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 67 bytes --] Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? brucee [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 133 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-02 3:44 ` [9fans] Postscript and troff Prof Brucee @ 2017-05-02 8:59 ` Bruce Ellis 2017-05-02 9:29 ` Steve Simon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-02 8:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 215 bytes --] Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? brucee On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote: > Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? > > brucee > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 648 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-02 8:59 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-02 9:29 ` Steve Simon 2017-05-02 9:37 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Steve Simon @ 2017-05-02 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 480 bytes --] If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures -Steve > On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? > > brucee > >> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote: >> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >> >> brucee > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1266 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-02 9:29 ` Steve Simon @ 2017-05-02 9:37 ` Bruce Ellis 2017-05-05 5:23 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-02 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 597 bytes --] Specifically html. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > > If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a > group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. > > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures > > -Steve > > > On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? > > brucee > > On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >> >> brucee >> > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1736 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-02 9:37 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-05 5:23 ` Bruce Ellis 2017-05-05 5:28 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-05 5:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 963 bytes --] I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good solution". There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to postprocess troff output. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:37, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > Specifically html. > > brucee > > On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > >> >> If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a >> group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. >> >> http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures >> >> -Steve >> >> >> On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? >> >> brucee >> >> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >>> >>> brucee >>> >> >> > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2547 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-05 5:23 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-05 5:28 ` Bakul Shah 2017-05-05 5:32 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bakul Shah @ 2017-05-05 5:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. Then you can embed EPS easily! :-) On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > solution". > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > postprocess troff output. > > brucee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-05 5:28 ` Bakul Shah @ 2017-05-05 5:32 ` Bruce Ellis 2017-05-05 5:41 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-05 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 692 bytes --] bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time for another good TeX hack. :-) brucee On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote: > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. > Then you can embed EPS easily! > > :-) > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > solution". > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > > postprocess troff output. > > > > brucee > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1175 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-05 5:32 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2017-05-05 5:41 ` Bakul Shah 2017-05-05 5:53 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bakul Shah @ 2017-05-05 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs https://bima.astro.umd.edu/nemo/man_html/tr2latex.l.html No idea how good it is though. On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > > bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time > for another good TeX hack. > > :-) brucee > > On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote: > > > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. > > Then you can embed EPS easily! > > > > :-) > > > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > > solution". > > > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > > > postprocess troff output. > > > > > > brucee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff 2017-05-05 5:41 ` Bakul Shah @ 2017-05-05 5:53 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Bakul Shah @ 2017-05-05 5:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Via http://ftp.cs.stanford.edu/tex/texhax/texhax89.088 So only for -ms or -man. bwk's way may be better for your purpose. +---- | Date: Fri, 22 Sep 89 12:30:59 PDT | From: Phil Farrell <farrell@erebus.Stanford.EDU> | Subject: Re: TeX, troff, man pages | Keywords: TeX, troff, man pages | | In TeXhax vol 89, issue 85, William LeFebvre says: | > I've often thought of implementing the troff man macros in TeX. If | > that were done, then one could just TeX-off the printed form whenever | > desired but still have "nroff -man" for the man command. So what's | > needed? First, we need to define "(newline)." as the equivalent of an | > escape character. Any takers? | | There is another existing way to do this. The UNIX TeX distribution includes | a contributed program tr2tex from a former student here at Stanford that | can convert troff manuscripts that use either -ms or -man macros to LaTeX | documents. It doesn't do a perfect job for complicated troff constructions, | but the simple macros normally used in man pages come through just fine. | | This isn't the real answer for replacing troff with TeX on UNIX systems | because it still requires that you keep nroff around and it still requires | that you know the -man macros for writing man pages. What I think is | needed is a combination of a LaTeX style option that forces the output | to use a constant-width font and constant line spacing, etc; plus a | dvi interpreter that can reproduce such a restricted output on a normal | terminal screen. For the fairly simple documents that are used as on-line | documentation (no math and only simple tables that can be done with tabs) | this would allow regular typesetting via LaTeX for printed copies, but | also permit viewing on a normal dumb terminal by including the special | style option and processing through the special dvi interpreter. I am | afraid, however, that this would be a rather large project to undertake | and unfortunately can never imagine having the time to do it myself. | | Phil Farrell, Computer Systems Manager | Stanford University School of Earth Sciences | farrell@erebus.stanford.edu +---- On Thu, 04 May 2017 22:41:57 PDT Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote: > https://bima.astro.umd.edu/nemo/man_html/tr2latex.l.html > > No idea how good it is though. > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time > > for another good TeX hack. > > > > :-) brucee > > > > On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote: > > > > > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. > > > Then you can embed EPS easily! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > > > solution". > > > > > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > > > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > > > > postprocess troff output. > > > > > > > > brucee > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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