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From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] There is no fork
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 11:10:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180213191034.GB26808@wopr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FD69A5A0-5D80-41DF-B702-F71589862C1E@gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 06:21:42PM +0000, Rui Carmo wrote:
> 
> Yes. And to deliver an image for the Pi, built on Intel systems.

Always good to specify the deliverables.

> I struggle to understand how version control is not more actively used.

It's not particularly necessary when you have global state with
snapshots provided by a shared WORM fs.  DVCS adds a lot of complexity
for questionable gain, in that environment.  9front's adoption of
mercurial is a historical accident rather than a desired outcome.  But,
I understand that most people just want to use the tools they already
know.  It's much easier than learning a new paradigm.

> At least the basic ones regarding whether the result boots, yes.

I look forward to seeing your results.

> Well, for full disclosure, I work at Microsoft. I do have extensive
> AWS and GCE experience, and hardly find them “crippled”. It’s just that
> the world has moved on and prioritised certain kinds of hardware 
> virtualisation.

We can disagree, but AWS's recent push away from xen and toward kvm
indicates to me that they also consider their product crippled. 
Perhaps the world is moving back.

I'm sure they had excellent reasons for it, but I've never found either
Amazon or Google to be particularly capable platforms.  Perhaps I'd feel
differently if I were a web developer.

> For using QEMU’s virtualization features inside Hyper-V.

If Hyper-V is still capable of running Xen guests, you may want to look
at the code on sources for a start in that direction.  That way you
could skip linux altogether and just use the platform natively.  

Good luck,

khm



  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-13 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-12 23:48 sl
2018-02-13  3:06 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13  9:31   ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 10:43     ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 11:05       ` hiro
2018-02-13 11:07         ` hiro
2018-02-13 11:13           ` hiro
2018-02-13 13:45           ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 14:35             ` hiro
2018-02-13 16:09               ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 15:10         ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 15:22           ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 16:25           ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-13 17:01             ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 18:12               ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-13 18:21                 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 19:10                   ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2018-02-13 23:37                     ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-14  9:09                       ` Steve Simon
2018-02-14 11:10                         ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-14 11:32                           ` hiro
2018-02-14 13:53                             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-13 19:14                   ` hiro
2018-02-13 18:16           ` Steve Simon
2018-02-13 18:46             ` Bakul Shah
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-02-14 14:37 sl
2018-02-14  0:31 sl
2018-02-14  7:18 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 14:15 sl
2018-02-10  2:48 Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-10  4:24 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-10 10:43   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-10  4:43 ` Jens Staal
2018-02-10 10:46   ` hiro
2018-02-10 10:51     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-10 11:59       ` hiro
2018-02-10 14:54         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-10 12:03       ` as
2018-02-11 12:26 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-11 13:48   ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-11 22:40   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-11 23:48   ` Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-12  0:20     ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12  0:58       ` Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-12  1:10       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-12  8:33         ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 13:05           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-12 13:39             ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 13:59               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-12 15:21             ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 15:50               ` Chris McGee
2018-02-12 16:13               ` tlaronde
2018-02-12 18:51                 ` Steve Simon
2018-02-12 20:40                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 23:49                   ` Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-14 13:17               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-14 13:57     ` Erik Quanstrom

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