From: sl@9front.org
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] There is no fork
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:15:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C7EE2EC5BA4EC03DEC417468BF3FDE21@5ess.inri.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAJQ9t7j8rbq+cWRSFjoEdiFzOxPR7HgtkcgoXyJ=TSFai0ZRBg@mail.gmail.com
> On 2/13/18, Rui Carmo <rui.carmo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I get the current website and some of the in-jokes, but a step-by-step guide
> > for installing, building and contributing would be great ...
>
> It's so easy to fall into the trap of elitism, while bemoaning the
> shortage of development hands needed to bring Plan 9 (or any one of
> its other flavours) into the "mainstream".
>
> What keeps Plan 9 alive and this list/group thriving is the
> conversation, irrespective of the actual pertinence to the "real
> world". It is knowing that the world has rejected the Plan 9 "grace"
> and are therefore not deserving, blah, blah. Human natures, humoured,
> harmlessly. Why not? Plan 9 is elegant, 9front presumably has some
> robust features, the other flavours can handle their own niche
> objectives.
>
> I've been absent here for a long spell and came back recently to
> discover most of the old hands still at it and some new blood raising,
> mutatis mutandis, the same issues we've seen go past since 1995 (for
> me). It is as familiar as it is reassuring.
>
> But the reality is that Plan 9 is too good in too many ways and the
> world can only absorb chunks of that at the time (disruptive
> technologies, I believe they were labelled, way back) and so it
> progresses very little while the few remaining contenders to the prize
> of OS of the century or millennium or whatever have the resources to
> track the bad engineering decisions they (the OSes) facilitate or even
> demand.
>
> Merging Plan 9 flavours would resolve many otherwise intractable
> problems, but it will do nothing to improve the penetration of Plan 9
> in the marketplace and no one has the funds to tackle it, even if they
> felt that the result would be worth it.
>
> But there is something in not following the fashion; I, for one,
> really cherish it. Mostly because it is all so simple, once you leave
> the baroque world of Windows, Linux and OSX behind.
>
> Lucio.
I think he was looking for
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html
and
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa5.html
sl
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-13 14:15 sl [this message]
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2018-02-14 14:37 sl
2018-02-14 0:31 sl
2018-02-14 7:18 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-12 23:48 sl
2018-02-13 3:06 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 9:31 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 10:43 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 11:05 ` hiro
2018-02-13 11:07 ` hiro
2018-02-13 11:13 ` hiro
2018-02-13 13:45 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 14:35 ` hiro
2018-02-13 16:09 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 15:10 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 15:22 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 16:25 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-13 17:01 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 18:12 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-13 18:21 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-13 19:10 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-13 23:37 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-14 9:09 ` Steve Simon
2018-02-14 11:10 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-14 11:32 ` hiro
2018-02-14 13:53 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-13 19:14 ` hiro
2018-02-13 18:16 ` Steve Simon
2018-02-13 18:46 ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-10 2:48 Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-10 4:24 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-10 10:43 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-10 4:43 ` Jens Staal
2018-02-10 10:46 ` hiro
2018-02-10 10:51 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-10 11:59 ` hiro
2018-02-10 14:54 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-10 12:03 ` as
2018-02-11 12:26 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-11 13:48 ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-11 22:40 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-11 23:48 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-12 0:20 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 0:58 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-12 1:10 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-12 8:33 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 13:05 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-12 13:39 ` Lucio De Re
2018-02-13 13:59 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-12 15:21 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 15:50 ` Chris McGee
2018-02-12 16:13 ` tlaronde
2018-02-12 18:51 ` Steve Simon
2018-02-12 20:40 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 23:49 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2018-02-14 13:17 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-14 13:57 ` Erik Quanstrom
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