Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[rog]

> But next, I am a little scared by many lines of;
>                                                        ^^^^^^^^
> > 	somefile: locally created; will not update
>
> This will not happen so frequently, if you'd really changed them localy.
> It will happen only at developping site.  :-)

mind you, it's not clear what you're supposed to do when you get lots
of such messages to resolve them in a safe way.  i finally got around
to trying to use replica to synchronise from our fileserver to my
laptop, and got 22602 such lines; when i actually went through and did
a cmp of all those files, it turned out that only 192 were genuinely
different.  i didn't find replica easy to use!

then i tried tra, which was altogether easier...  and surprisingly
quick, considering the amount of data that it was shifting.  i was a
little surprised to find it indexing in directories that i thought i'd
excluded, though.

  cheers,
    rog.

where is tra? (was: Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel)

[Axel Belinfante]

Where can I find tra?

I tried to search for tra in my 9fans mail, and only found link
   ftp://ftp.deas.harvard.edu/techreports/tr-01-01.ps.gz
which did't seem to work when I tried it.

Axel.

rog wrote:
> mind you, it's not clear what you're supposed to do when you get lots
> of such messages to resolve them in a safe way.  i finally got around
> to trying to use replica to synchronise from our fileserver to my
> laptop, and got 22602 such lines; when i actually went through and did
> a cmp of all those files, it turned out that only 192 were genuinely
> different.  i didn't find replica easy to use!
>
> then i tried tra, which was altogether easier...  and surprisingly
> quick, considering the amount of data that it was shifting.  i was a
> little surprised to find it indexing in directories that i thought i'd
> excluded, though.

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[William Josephson]

In article <2b1d0337bda6deb7@vitanuova.com>, rog@vitanuova.com wrote:

> then i tried tra, which was altogether easier...  and surprisingly
> quick, considering the amount of data that it was shifting.  i was a
> little surprised to find it indexing in directories that i thought i'd
> excluded, though.

A little off topic, but I'd love to have a bug report :-/
I think we fixed a similar or related bug already (I can't
go look at the repository at the moment), but it is certainly
a work in progress.

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[nigel]

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I just tried to mail you directly, and got

The original message was received at Fri, 16 Aug 2002 02:30:05 -0400 (EDT)
from filters@localhost

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
jkw@deas.harvard.edu.procmail
    (reason: 550 <jkw@deas.harvard.edu>... User unknown)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to local.deas.harvard.edu.:
>>> RCPT To:<jkw@deas.harvard.edu>
<<< 550 <jkw@deas.harvard.edu>... User unknown
550 5.1.1 jkw@deas.harvard.edu.procmail... User unknown


I guess this is why you have no bug reports!

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From: William Josephson <jkw@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:13:28 GMT
Message-ID: <slrnalno1d.135s.wkj@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu>

In article <2b1d0337bda6deb7@vitanuova.com>, rog@vitanuova.com wrote:

> then i tried tra, which was altogether easier...  and surprisingly
> quick, considering the amount of data that it was shifting.  i was a
> little surprised to find it indexing in directories that i thought i'd
> excluded, though.

A little off topic, but I'd love to have a bug report :-/
I think we fixed a similar or related bug already (I can't
go look at the repository at the moment), but it is certainly
a work in progress.

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[okamoto]

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Honestly, I've also been scared to use replica/pull.  ☺
So, I setup a terminal with local HDD, and it does only replica/pull
from sources.plan9.bell-labs.com.  And then, I also do replica/pull
from that local machine to our file server...   In this case, I can re-
examine with enough time to see what is different!

I just read Russ's Tra page, however, it seems to me not so easy to
grasp at a glance.   I'm now suffering from discripancy between
new control(2) library and our applications written by Yoshitatsu.
Most of the problem is comming from his confusion of channel
usage(☺), however, I have to rewrite them before the start of next
semester...

Kenji

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From: rog@vitanuova.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:49:10 +0100
Message-ID: <2b1d0337bda6deb7dd36bbcdd0eb034c@vitanuova.com>

> But next, I am a little scared by many lines of;
>                                                        ^^^^^^^^
> > 	somefile: locally created; will not update
>
> This will not happen so frequently, if you'd really changed them localy.
> It will happen only at developping site.  :-)

mind you, it's not clear what you're supposed to do when you get lots
of such messages to resolve them in a safe way.  i finally got around
to trying to use replica to synchronise from our fileserver to my
laptop, and got 22602 such lines; when i actually went through and did
a cmp of all those files, it turned out that only 192 were genuinely
different.  i didn't find replica easy to use!

then i tried tra, which was altogether easier...  and surprisingly
quick, considering the amount of data that it was shifting.  i was a
little surprised to find it indexing in directories that i thought i'd
excluded, though.

  cheers,
    rog.

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[arisawa]

Hello Takeshi,

>Probably, Russ asked it, because you wrote
>But next, I am a little scared by many lines of;
>                                                       ^^^^^^^^
>> 	somefile: locally created; will not update
>
>This will not happen so frequently, if you'd really changed
>them localy.
>It will happen only at developping site.  :-)
>
>Kenji


It will happen frequently at the first time you executed
replica/pull
having empty /dist/replica/client/plan9.log
For example you have installed plan9 4ed without using replica/pull
Therefore Russ saied:
>did you install from the distribution or by copying another system?

Kenji Arisawa

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[okamoto]

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Probably, Russ asked it, because you wrote
But next, I am a little scared by many lines of;
                                                       ^^^^^^^^
> 	somefile: locally created; will not update

This will not happen so frequently, if you'd really changed them localy.
It will happen only at developping site.  :-)

Kenji

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From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <uncover@beat.cc.titech.ac.jp>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:30:12 0900
Message-ID: <200208150029.g7F0TmJ281215@mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp>

> How did you set up the system?  Is it booting off
> a file server or a local kfs?

It is a local kfs on a terminal running on VMware
installed from vmware.zip.

I noticed some lines like
	a sys/src/cmd/aux/vga/notes.txt 644 sys sys 1028334647
are shown.
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Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[YAMANASHI Takeshi]

> How did you set up the system?  Is it booting off
> a file server or a local kfs?

It is a local kfs on a terminal running on VMware
installed from vmware.zip.

I noticed some lines like
	a sys/src/cmd/aux/vga/notes.txt 644 sys sys 1028334647
are shown.
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Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[Russ Cox]

> But next, I am a little scared by many lines of;
> 	somefile: locally created; will not update

How did you set up the system?  Is it booting off
a file server or a local kfs?  If a local kfs, did you
install from the distribution or by copying another
system?

Russ

Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[YAMANASHI Takeshi]

> I didn't investigate this in any detail, but I noticed that factotum
> overrides the network settings (I was playing with sshnet).

Isn't it that the factotum had been started
before rearranging /net?

Im my case, I successfuly mounted sources.cs.bell-labs.com.
	term% import -O p9c /net
	term% auth/factotum
	term% 9fs sources
	term% ls /n/sources
	/n/sources/adm
	/n/sources/contrib
	/n/sources/extra
	/n/sources/plan9


As for my previous question, replica/pull didn't
time out while copying plan9.log this morning and
is going on further now, it seems.
But next, I am a little scared by many lines of;
	somefile: locally created; will not update

Thank you.
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Re: [9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[Lucio De Re]

On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:40:27PM +0000, YAMANASHI Takeshi wrote:
>
>
> I had to run import and factotum because the terminal
> is not directly reachable to the Internet but p9c is
> reachable.  But these things should not matter, I think.

I didn't investigate this in any detail, but I noticed that factotum
overrides the network settings (I was playing with sshnet).

I didn't really understand the logic, so I made a mental note to
look into it before raising it here, but haven't made enough progress
with other issues, so I left it.

++L

[9fans] replica/pull hungup channel

[YAMANASHI Takeshi]

Hi. I tried to update a 4th Ed. terminal kfs.
replica/pull ended in the following error.

	term% import -O p9c /net
	term% auth/factotum
	term% replica/pull -v /tmp/network
	post...
	cp: error reading /n/dist/dist/replica/plan9.log: write to hungup channel
	cp /n/dist/dist/replica/plan9.log /n/kfs/dist/replica/client/plan9.log: cp 639: errors

I had to run import and factotum because the terminal
is not directly reachable to the Internet but p9c is
reachable.  But these things should not matter, I think.
--
YAMANASHI Takeshi