[9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Jason Gurtz]

It seems to detect everything OK:

mach64  (2MB)
3com elnk3

After root is from prompt I hit enter and it says

"kfs...boot: nop..."

and that's it, floppy continues to read for a bit, then stops.

Am i missing somthing?

any hints would be well appreciated


~Jason

Re: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Russ Cox]

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Try removing the ether0= line.
What sort of Etherlink III is it?

Russ

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From: Jason Gurtz <jason@ask.me.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:50:19 GMT
Message-ID: <3996e790@news.cyberzone.net>

It seems to detect everything OK:

mach64  (2MB)
3com elnk3

After root is from prompt I hit enter and it says

"kfs...boot: nop..."

and that's it, floppy continues to read for a bit, then stops.

Am i missing somthing?

any hints would be well appreciated


~Jason

Re: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Lucio De Re]

On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 09:41:48PM -0400, Russ Cox wrote:
> 
> Try removing the ether0= line.
> What sort of Etherlink III is it?
> 
If it's the same oddity I use (and Kenji) then it needs the media
to be preset.

In passing, I wonder if JMK could share the technology to read and
write the serial RAM chip without me having to consult driver
sources, I'm convinced something in the chip on my system is
sufficiently broken to bring the diagnostic tools to a standstill
and I'd like to poke a bit at it.

A "no" is an acceptable answer, I'm just trying to avoid re-invention.

++L

RE: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Jason Gurtz]

turned out to be a fail(ing)(ed) floppy.  Linux had not reported any errors
and it cmp'ed fine.  After installing w/ a new floppy, bootsetup:floppy
reported i/o error trying to use orig. diskette.

~Jason

> Try removing the ether0= line.
> What sort of Etherlink III is it?
>
> Russ

Re: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Michael Joosten]

Russ Cox wrote:
> 
> Try removing the ether0= line.
> What sort of Etherlink III is it?
> 

BTW, the same (or a very similar situation) happened to me also with a 
3C509 when I changed computers. As it turned out, the PnP stuff was
still enabled on the NIC. Using the 3COM setup diskettes (pnpdisable.bat
or such) cured this and I could again boot from disk.
Might be added as hint to the FAQ or install docs.

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Re: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Douglas A. Gwyn]

Michael Joosten wrote:
> BTW, the same (or a very similar situation) happened to me also with a
> 3C509 when I changed computers. As it turned out, the PnP stuff was
> still enabled on the NIC. Using the 3COM setup diskettes (pnpdisable.bat
> or such) cured this and I could again boot from disk.
> Might be added as hint to the FAQ or install docs.

Absolutely.  A 3C509 can even be rendered inoperable by a PnP
OS such as Windows 9x (long story).  It is best when installing
a new 3C509 to immediately run PNPDSABL.BAT to keep PnP from
causing a problem for that card.

RE: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[presotto]

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I wonder it that means Plan 9 and Linux use different precompensation
values for the floppy.  I'll have to look into Linux since we just got
ours out of a floppy controller description.

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From: "Jason Gurtz" <jason@tommyk.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: RE: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:36:04 -0400
Message-ID: <IJEHIEOFFHAMGMGIKAMIMEKDCCAA.jason@tommyk.com>

turned out to be a fail(ing)(ed) floppy.  Linux had not reported any errors
and it cmp'ed fine.  After installing w/ a new floppy, bootsetup:floppy
reported i/o error trying to use orig. diskette.

~Jason

> Try removing the ether0= line.
> What sort of Etherlink III is it?
>
> Russ

Re: [9fans] hang when booting from the orig boot floppy

[Douglas A. Gwyn]

presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> I wonder it that means Plan 9 and Linux use different precompensation
> values for the floppy.  I'll have to look into Linux since we just got
> ours out of a floppy controller description.

There is certainly *some*thing flaky about the floppy support,
at least in the installation process.  Russ & I exchanged email
for many days as I tried to get the installation to work on a
couple of different systems.  (Finally worked on one of them.)