[9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

Bonjour all,

I'm trying to install Plan9 to an HP pavillon ze5570us
an I'm stuck just at the last line of the following steps :


PBS.....Plan 9 from Bell Labs
ELCR: 0420
dev A0 port 1F0 config 045A capabilities 2B00 mwdma 0007 udma 203F
dev A0 port 170 config 85C0 capabilities 0F00 mwdma 0407
pcirouting: 1106/3104 at pin 3 irq 10
pcirouting: 14E4/4320 at pin 1 irq 10
pcirouting: 104C/8026 at pin 1 irq 11
found partition sdD0!cdboot; 42895+1440
using sdD0!cdboot!plan9.ini

Plan 9 Startup Menu :
================
       1. Install Plan 9 from this CD
       2. Boot Plan 9 from this CD
Selection: 1

found 9pcflop.gz
.gz..........
...................
1261590 => 755436+1104292+103648=1963376
entry: 80100020

Plan9
cpu0: 2658MHz GenuineIntel P4 (cpuid: AX 0x........)
ELCR: 0240
#y0: 2 slot Intel 82365SSL: port 0x3E0 irq 5
anar: 05e1
anar: 05e1
anlpar: 41e1
aner: 0007
physts:0015
tbscr: 0b28
#l0:83815: 100mbps port 0x2400 irq 10: 000..
dev A0 port 1F0 config 045A capabilities 2B00 mwdma 0007 udma 203F dma
00550020
rwm 0
dev A0 port 170 config 85C0 capabilities 0F00 mwdma 0407 dma 00000004 rwm 0
68462 free pages, 273848K bytes, 913848K swap

and that's it.....!!! I'm just stuck here.


I've google around to try to find out  but no luck until now.
If someone has any clue, direction, please let me know.

Have a good one.
Philippe

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[blstuart]

countryjoe@myrealbox.com (Philippe on f7400) wrote:
>#l0:83815: 100mbps port 0x2400 irq 10: 000..
>dev A0 port 1F0 config 045A capabilities 2B00 mwdma 0007 udma 203F dma
>00550020
>rwm 0
>dev A0 port 170 config 85C0 capabilities 0F00 mwdma 0407 dma 00000004 rwm 0
>68462 free pages, 273848K bytes, 913848K swap
>
>and that's it.....!!! I'm just stuck here.

I had a similar problem just the other night.  It turned out that
if I removed the Ethernet card, everything was happy.  Now that
I have things installed on that machine, I need to go back and
see if there was a problem with the card or DHCP or something
else.  So I'd suggest pulling the Ethernet card.  If it's
integrated, then see if you can disable it in the BIOS.  It
may not fix things, but at least it's a quick thing to try.

Brian L. Stuart

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[C H Forsyth]

>>an I'm stuck just at the last line of the following steps :

does ctrl-alt-del then do anything?

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

> does ctrl-alt-del then do anything?

Actually it just prints cpu0: exiting
and that's it.

I've started to take it appart to see if I can
get the Ethernet out like Brian suggested (and
as the Bios does not give me the luxury of
disabling it) but it seems that there are some
hidden screws on my way ;-) .

Philippe

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[C H Forsyth]

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it's worth investigating a little more before getting carried away.
i'd next try typing  control-t control-t letter-p to see if that shows
what's running.

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From: Philippe on f7400 <countryjoe@myrealbox.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:55:39 -0600
Message-ID: <41050D5B.3000300@myrealbox.com>

> does ctrl-alt-del then do anything?

Actually it just prints cpu0: exiting
and that's it.

I've started to take it appart to see if I can
get the Ethernet out like Brian suggested (and
as the Bios does not give me the luxury of
disabling it) but it seems that there are some
hidden screws on my way ;-) .

Philippe

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

C H Forsyth wrote:
> it's worth investigating a little more before getting carried away.
> i'd next try typing  control-t control-t letter-p to see if that shows
> what's running.


Ctrl-t Ctrl-t p do not do (or print) anything.

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

C H Forsyth wrote:

> it's worth investigating a little more before getting carried away.
> i'd next try typing  control-t control-t letter-p to see if that shows
> what's running.



Ctrl-t Ctrl-t p do not do (or print) anything.

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Dave Eckhardt]

In article <Nb_Mc.14743$QO.13857@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, <blstuart@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>I had a similar problem just the other night.  It turned out that
>if I removed the Ethernet card, everything was happy.

I saw something like this just yesterday on an Intel 440BX system.

If the BIOS was set to "Plug and Play OS: Yes", the kernel hung soon
after entry, but if I set it to "No" it continued, and the first thing
it printed that it hadn't when it was hanging was the detection of the
Ethernet card (I think it was an Etherlink III).

What's the "right" value for that BIOS setting?

Dave Eckhardt

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[geoff]

The right value for the "Plug and Play OS" BIOS setting is "No".

BIOSes think that a Plug and Play OS is one that will go to great
trouble to reroute PCI interrupts and change IRQs (i.e., expend lots
of code doing what the BIOS should have done).

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

I finally took my laptop apart, had a close look
at what I could do to disable the Ethernet card,
decided there was nothing I could do and put it
back together.

Now, before I give up on this one, I'm looking
at what could be the reason of this hang up
and I'm still trying (hoping) to find a way
to have it boot.

I also have try some more solutions like setting
up my router as a DHCP server, having no router
at all but a direct connection to the DSL modem,
playing with the PXE agent menu...but still no luck.

I do not know what Plan9 is waiting for at this stage...!

If someone could point me to some documents on
how the boot procedure goes with Plan9 that will
be nice before I go shopping for a new unit.

Bonne journée.
Philippe

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Matt Pidd-Cheshire]

Philippe on f7400 wrote:
> I finally took my laptop apart, had a close look
> at what I could do to disable the Ethernet card,
> decided there was nothing I could do and put it
> back together.
> 
> Now, before I give up on this one, I'm looking
> at what could be the reason of this hang up
> and I'm still trying (hoping) to find a way
> to have it boot.
> 
> I also have try some more solutions like setting
> up my router as a DHCP server, having no router
> at all but a direct connection to the DSL modem,
> playing with the PXE agent menu...but still no luck.
> 
> I do not know what Plan9 is waiting for at this stage...!
> 
> If someone could point me to some documents on
> how the boot procedure goes with Plan9 that will
> be nice before I go shopping for a new unit.
> 
> Bonne journée.
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 

this may relate ...

installing on my toshiba satellite was a problem from he^H^H the start. 
the install would hang in /rc/bin/termrc trying to bind a nonexistent 
parallel port. i patched the cd iso image directly to fix the termrc 
script to ignore the binding to #L by blotting out with spaces and 
re-burning the image to a CD-RW. the system booted and i was able to 
install.

[then i got a copy of the nvidia display driver from LLNL and had to 
hack it to make the mouse pointer display and track correctly. on later 
versions the display driver for the chipset (GeForce4 440 Go) doesn't 
appear to work at all anymore]

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Chunky Kibbles]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:19:14AM -0700, Matt Pidd-Cheshire wrote:
>
> [then i got a copy of the nvidia display driver from LLNL and had to
> hack it to make the mouse pointer display and track correctly. on later
> versions the display driver for the chipset (GeForce4 440 Go) doesn't
> appear to work at all anymore]

Hnuh? What's this about? nVidia drivers? Google searches aren't
turning up much. What's LLNL?

Gary (-;

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[andrey mirtchovski]

> Hnuh? What's this about? nVidia drivers? Google searches aren't
> turning up much. What's LLNL?

he probably means LANL:

	http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/lanlp9/

there's an old nvidia driver patch there that has long since been
incorporated into Plan 9.

andrey

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Chunky Kibbles]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:35:38PM -0600, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
>
> > Hnuh? What's this about? nVidia drivers? Google searches aren't
> > turning up much. What's LLNL?
>
> he probably means LANL:
>
> 	http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/lanlp9/
>
> there's an old nvidia driver patch there that has long since been
> incorporated into Plan 9.

Ah. So my GFII will be fine, when I eventually get round to plugging
the machien back in?

Gary (-;

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Matt Pidd-Cheshire]

Chunky Kibbles wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:35:38PM -0600, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
>
>>>Hnuh? What's this about? nVidia drivers? Google searches aren't
>>>turning up much. What's LLNL?
>>
>>he probably means LANL:
>>
>>	http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/lanlp9/
>>
>>there's an old nvidia driver patch there that has long since been
>>incorporated into Plan 9.

andrey is correct (my mistake).

but if these changes have been incorporated they have since been broken
i think; i use 1600x1200x16 @ dell2000fp to make my laptop display work.
installing with the latest distrib that offers the fossil option causes
the display to switch into graphics mode but appears to hang. (it didn't
respond to drawterm requests from the network anyway)

>
>
> Ah. So my GFII will be fine, when I eventually get round to plugging
> the machien back in?
>
> Gary (-;

maybe =)

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

Hello all,

I've finally made it....manually...!!

While still searching why and trying for
a few more hours & just before giving up
I had a look at the Ethernet PCMCIA card
on my next laptop and decide to try with
this one instead. Still no luck...Stuck
at the same place. So while stucked, I
unplugged the PCMCIA card and HERE IT GOES....

The installation process goes on just fine....!!

I made a few more test but basically
it's only when I'm inserting or de-inserting
the card that the installation runs.

So, if any pcmcia card is plugged before booting,
I just have to unplugged-it when I'm stuck at :
.....
68462 free pages, 273848K bytes, 913848K swap

Or plugged it at the same point if it was
unplugged at boot time.


Voilà...Now it says : "failed to star rio. you can...."
but hey...."Chaque chose en son temps"

I wish I could explain why but it's well above my
competence.


Bonne journée..
Philippe Lucky Luke

Re: [9fans] Stuck start of Installation

[Philippe on f7400]

Adding :

  pcmcia0=disabled

to plan9.ini solved the boot
problem for this HP ze5570us laptop.


Philippe

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[Philippe on f7400]

I'm vncv to a W98 box without problem
but even after man(ing) vnc & searching
wiki & list archive, I'm unable to find
the way to properly quit the viewer session(s)
except by deleting the window where it is running.

No F8 vnc pop up menu ?

Would be happy to follow some pointer(s).

Philippe.

Re: [9fans] How to properly quit vncv

[Steve Simon]

Windows boxen have an icon in the tooltray that pops-up into a control
menu when right clicked. One of the options in the list is
"Disconnect all clients" which I use. This is not so usefull if you have
multiple clients.

-Steve