From: Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>,
Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] ndis-ulator for plan 9
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:56:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4332C639.8040607@lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e1162e605092207172e74e9cb@mail.gmail.com>
David Leimbach wrote:
> All of this begins to remind me why I normally don't muck around in OS
> kernels. It's so really not fun or interesting to deal with the
> braindead-ness of hardware.
it's not all bad. USB was a trainwreck from day one. But there's
infiniban- oh, wait, that's kind of icky too. Well, there's always
BlueToot -- oh, wait, I'm told that makes USB look sane.
well, still, you still shouldn't give up so easily.
Ah, then, maybe chipset work? You could work with the chipsets and --
oh, wait, vendors won't let you see them. Hmm. Well, they're kinda ugly
anwyay.
Well, there's the busses! Yes, the busses! check out PCI-E, which does
ARQ in hardware! Now there's some fun -- oh, no, it's not fun at all,
Forgive me, I forgot. And, I am told, it has just as high latency as
PCI-X, because of all the extra glop that got added to support ARQ in
hardware. Hmm.
Well, if you don't want to do hardware, consider the low-level software
stuff that vendors are pushing, like EFI and ACPI, they're really pretty
nic -- oh, wait, they're awful.
ah, hmm. Well! this is interesting. I'm putting my life into stuff that
sucks. What am I doing here?
I shoulda gone to work for a railroad. If you get mad at something on
the railroad, you get to hit it with a spike hammer (I learned this from
experience). Although at times I would like to hit a computer with a
spike hammer. Spike hammers have a nice heft to them, and would leave a
nice round hole in most computers -- metal cases are no problem.
Or maybe be a window washer! ".... a window washer me ..."
ron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-22 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-16 3:07 [9fans] vmware 5.0 Tim Newsham
2005-08-21 20:17 ` Russ Cox
2005-08-23 8:30 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-23 17:44 ` Gorka guardiola
2005-08-23 17:54 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-23 18:55 ` Steve Simon
2005-08-23 19:07 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2005-08-23 19:28 ` Scott Stout
2005-08-23 19:38 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2005-08-23 19:26 ` Gorka guardiola
2005-08-23 12:34 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-23 20:25 ` Gorka guardiola
2005-08-24 12:07 ` Francisco Ballesteros
2005-08-24 15:34 ` LiteStar numnums
2005-08-23 19:48 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2005-08-23 19:54 ` [9fans] procreate vs threadcreate? rattan
2005-08-23 19:58 ` Brantley Coile
2005-08-23 20:00 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-08-23 20:02 ` Russ Cox
2005-08-25 2:41 ` [9fans] vmware 5.0 Martin C. Atkins
2005-08-25 4:38 ` Tim Newsham
2005-08-27 9:53 ` Vester Thacker
2005-08-27 10:01 ` Vester Thacker
2005-08-27 12:35 ` Jun OKAJIMA
2005-08-27 14:01 ` [9fans] Xen for Windows(Was:vmware 5.0) Jun OKAJIMA
2005-08-27 15:47 ` kokamoto
2005-08-27 17:33 ` Steve Simon
2005-08-28 1:22 ` kokamoto
2005-08-28 12:04 ` Brantley Coile
2005-08-28 12:40 ` lucio
2005-08-28 14:24 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-28 13:40 ` Martin Harriss
2005-08-28 14:25 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-28 16:27 ` kokamoto
2005-08-28 16:43 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-28 14:19 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-08-28 18:18 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2005-08-29 0:06 ` Brantley Coile
2005-08-31 15:01 ` Gorka guardiola
2005-08-31 17:19 ` McLone
2005-09-01 3:59 ` [9fans] ndis-ulator for plan 9 Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-01 7:31 ` Dave Lukes
2005-09-01 7:39 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2005-09-01 8:08 ` balaji
2005-09-01 15:03 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-01 15:34 ` McLone
2005-09-01 15:40 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-02 16:02 ` Dave Lukes
2005-09-03 11:41 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-03 15:20 ` lucio
2005-09-03 15:21 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-03 15:40 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-04 15:28 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-05 5:42 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-06 4:16 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-01 16:28 ` Dave Lukes
2005-09-01 19:35 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-01 21:30 ` Devon O'Dell
2005-09-03 17:34 ` Jack Johnson
2005-09-21 18:35 ` Dave Lukes
2005-09-21 18:46 ` Uriel
2005-09-21 19:14 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-21 19:33 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-21 19:36 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-21 20:04 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-21 22:51 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-21 23:05 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-22 1:26 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-09-22 2:40 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-22 7:58 ` Nigel Roles
2005-09-22 13:50 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-22 14:17 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-22 14:20 ` Charles Forsyth
[not found] ` <d49d18945f1d149f28a9290e6ad56f6c@terzarima.net>
2005-09-22 14:40 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-22 14:56 ` Ronald G Minnich [this message]
2005-09-22 15:01 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-22 22:53 ` George Michaelson
2005-09-23 9:06 ` Nigel Roles
2005-09-23 7:13 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
[not found] ` <ac600c5a0c06881fc8bf6b5828b8a36b@terzarima.net>
2005-09-22 2:39 ` David Leimbach
2005-09-22 3:47 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-21 19:25 ` Dave Lukes
2005-08-31 17:52 ` [9fans] Xen for Windows(Was:vmware 5.0) Martin C. Atkins
2005-09-01 0:21 ` Brantley Coile
2005-09-01 3:23 ` Tim Newsham
2005-09-01 16:34 ` Harri Haataja
2005-08-28 14:07 ` Ronald G Minnich
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