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From: C H Forsyth <forsyth@vitanuova.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9
Date: Wed,  7 Jul 2004 18:56:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a74ef3889fb9d649f1d6017aad082c1@vitanuova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40EBD6C9.6030107@chunder.com>

>>well, if i understood either license
>>then i'd give you a better answer.

i take the usual jaundiced view of someone that with others has spent much time and
treasure getting something sprung out of expensive trade-secret/product status,
and spending even more time and treasure on it:
yes, yes, it's not the GPL or BSD or MIT or ..., but
especially when we now don't even charge for it,  they should be bloody grateful
they got it at all.  nevertheless, each time someone complains in public or private
i dutifully trot off and look again at the inferno licence(s)
and frankly i see little difference in complexity between our Liberal
one and any other, including Plan 9's Lucent Public one.
it follows a standard licence form with
with Licence Grant and Licence Restrictions/Conditions, and generally those
are the key bits.  1.1 you can adapt it; 1.2 you can distribute it as
source or binary provided you keep the licence and notices attached;
1.3 you can offer support etc.  but that's nothing to do with us; make
up your own agreement.  clause 2, the Conditions,
is similar in intent to parts of the GPL in requesting fair play:
a recipient that uses what we provide as Free software is required to reciprocate
(but only to the extent he further distributes things, as opposed to private use).
its phrasing is tighter to prevent some known abuses of the GPL
(dynamically-loaded binary modules, services only on a network.)
there's probably a Plain English award to be had for simplifying it.
i don't think we're being especially difficult.

actually, there's a bigger potential glitch in this case, but it's nothing to do
with Plan 9 so i'd better stop discussing it here!



  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-07 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-06  8:11 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-07-06 11:21 ` bituman
2004-07-06 11:52   ` gabriel diaz
2004-07-06 12:14     ` Matthias Teege
2004-07-06 12:23       ` lucio
2004-07-06 12:33         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-06 15:20     ` matt
2004-07-06 15:20       ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-07  9:11         ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-07 10:57           ` matt
2004-07-07 16:22             ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-07 16:58               ` jmk
2004-07-08 10:12                 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 11:35                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-07 21:49               ` matt
2004-07-07 21:53                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-08  2:40                   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07 22:12                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:01                   ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-07 23:12                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:25                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:54                       ` jmk
2004-07-08  7:01                       ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-08  7:28                       ` lucio
2004-07-08 23:26             ` vdharani
2004-07-08 18:25               ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 23:43                 ` vdharani
2004-07-08 18:43                   ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 18:34               ` Sape Mullender
2004-07-09  5:19               ` lucio
2004-07-09  5:48                 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09  6:05                   ` lucio
2004-07-09  9:15                     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09  9:25                       ` lucio
2004-07-09 10:11                         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09 10:26                           ` [9fans] A Discipline of Programming lucio
2004-07-09 16:11                             ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 10:34                           ` [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9 lucio
2004-07-09 11:19                             ` Nigel Roles
2004-07-09 22:51                       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-09 12:46                     ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 16:57                     ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 20:39                       ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:43                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 20:49                           ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:52                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-12 12:10                             ` OT: " Dave Lukes
2004-07-12 14:34                               ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:51                           ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 20:54                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 21:03                             ` Axel Belinfante
2004-07-10  0:30                               ` Dan Cross
2004-07-10  2:23                               ` vdharani
2004-07-09 21:42                             ` Jason Gurtz
2004-07-09 20:52                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-09 20:54                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-11 14:04                           ` matt
2004-07-09 21:52                         ` Nigel Roles
2004-07-10  2:30                       ` vdharani
2004-07-09 12:45                   ` ron minnich
2004-07-09  8:45                 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-09  9:09                   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-09  9:12                     ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-09 10:01                       ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-09 11:16                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 16:45                           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-09  9:30                   ` lucio
2004-07-09  9:59                     ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-10  2:43               ` vdharani
2004-07-09 22:41                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-09 22:43                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-10  4:25                   ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 15:39       ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 15:41         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-06 15:44           ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 16:19             ` C H Forsyth
2004-07-07  5:46           ` lucio
2004-07-07 10:56             ` Bruce Ellis
2004-07-07 17:56               ` C H Forsyth [this message]
2004-07-07 18:09                 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-07 18:59                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:30                     ` Bruce Ellis
2004-07-08  7:16                     ` lucio
2004-07-07 21:30       ` Nicholas Waples
2004-07-06 13:14   ` andrey mirtchovski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-08 18:34 Brantley Coile
2004-07-06  7:26 Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06  8:02 ` Matthias Teege
2004-07-06  8:11   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06  8:19     ` lucio
2004-07-06 10:57       ` Steve Simon
2004-07-06 11:08         ` Boris Maryshev
2004-07-06 12:15         ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-06 12:25           ` lucio
2004-07-07  1:26         ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06 12:33 ` Noah Evans
2004-07-07  0:54   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07  4:03     ` Noah Evans
2004-07-07  4:43       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07  7:15         ` Noah Evans
2004-07-06 13:16 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-06 14:01   ` lucio
2004-07-07  1:03   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07  1:14     ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-07  1:27     ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-13  5:42   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13  5:50     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-13  5:58       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13  9:04       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-13  5:55     ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13  8:56       ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-13  9:16         ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-15  0:56 ` Kenji Okamoto

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