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From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9
Date: Fri,  9 Jul 2004 23:43:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a39ed1cbb30b664460c19ec88ea78638@terzarima.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3698ba8e6fff70826595deee1069ce07@terzarima.net>

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sorry, i forgot to list EHCI.

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i found the standards themselves fine for all that.
i did look at a book but it didn't notice the ambiguity in
the endpoint definition either, and the book won't help
you write the code for OHCI.  it might even mislead: as
with PCMCIA, there's a peculiar terminology and assumed structure
to device interfaces that doesn't necessarily match the way
the software might choose to see it.
it's a bit like books that tell you that BSD sockets are the only
way to do networking.   it's not as bad as books that told you
that OSI was any way to do networking.

i think my main moans about USB would be that the raw protocol
and interfaces are tolerable, but neither UHCI nor OHCI are the way
i'd choose to see those, for different reasons; also that the device description
and manufacturer-independent driver approach didn't
work out in the end.  perhaps the latter has improved since i last dealt with it.

in any case, it's there, growing, and needs to be dealt with.

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From: vdharani@infernopark.com
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:43:33 -0500 (CDT)
Message-ID: <32593.192.11.226.116.1089427413.squirrel@www.infernopark.com>


btw, does anyone know of a good book on USB. preferably, it should
introduce the concept well and also be useful for working on the USB
driver.

any help appreciated.

thanks
dharani

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-09 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-06  8:11 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-07-06 11:21 ` bituman
2004-07-06 11:52   ` gabriel diaz
2004-07-06 12:14     ` Matthias Teege
2004-07-06 12:23       ` lucio
2004-07-06 12:33         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-06 15:20     ` matt
2004-07-06 15:20       ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-07  9:11         ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-07 10:57           ` matt
2004-07-07 16:22             ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-07 16:58               ` jmk
2004-07-08 10:12                 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 11:35                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-07 21:49               ` matt
2004-07-07 21:53                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-08  2:40                   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07 22:12                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:01                   ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-07 23:12                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:25                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:54                       ` jmk
2004-07-08  7:01                       ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-08  7:28                       ` lucio
2004-07-08 23:26             ` vdharani
2004-07-08 18:25               ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 23:43                 ` vdharani
2004-07-08 18:43                   ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 18:34               ` Sape Mullender
2004-07-09  5:19               ` lucio
2004-07-09  5:48                 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09  6:05                   ` lucio
2004-07-09  9:15                     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09  9:25                       ` lucio
2004-07-09 10:11                         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09 10:26                           ` [9fans] A Discipline of Programming lucio
2004-07-09 16:11                             ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 10:34                           ` [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9 lucio
2004-07-09 11:19                             ` Nigel Roles
2004-07-09 22:51                       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-09 12:46                     ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 16:57                     ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 20:39                       ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:43                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 20:49                           ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:52                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-12 12:10                             ` OT: " Dave Lukes
2004-07-12 14:34                               ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:51                           ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 20:54                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 21:03                             ` Axel Belinfante
2004-07-10  0:30                               ` Dan Cross
2004-07-10  2:23                               ` vdharani
2004-07-09 21:42                             ` Jason Gurtz
2004-07-09 20:52                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-09 20:54                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-11 14:04                           ` matt
2004-07-09 21:52                         ` Nigel Roles
2004-07-10  2:30                       ` vdharani
2004-07-09 12:45                   ` ron minnich
2004-07-09  8:45                 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-09  9:09                   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-09  9:12                     ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-09 10:01                       ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-09 11:16                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 16:45                           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-09  9:30                   ` lucio
2004-07-09  9:59                     ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-10  2:43               ` vdharani
2004-07-09 22:41                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-09 22:43                   ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2004-07-10  4:25                   ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 15:39       ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 15:41         ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-06 15:44           ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 16:19             ` C H Forsyth
2004-07-07  5:46           ` lucio
2004-07-07 10:56             ` Bruce Ellis
2004-07-07 17:56               ` C H Forsyth
2004-07-07 18:09                 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-07 18:59                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:30                     ` Bruce Ellis
2004-07-08  7:16                     ` lucio
2004-07-07 21:30       ` Nicholas Waples
2004-07-06 13:14   ` andrey mirtchovski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-08 18:34 Brantley Coile
2004-07-06  7:26 Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06  8:02 ` Matthias Teege
2004-07-06  8:11   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06  8:19     ` lucio
2004-07-06 10:57       ` Steve Simon
2004-07-06 11:08         ` Boris Maryshev
2004-07-06 12:15         ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-06 12:25           ` lucio
2004-07-07  1:26         ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06 12:33 ` Noah Evans
2004-07-07  0:54   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07  4:03     ` Noah Evans
2004-07-07  4:43       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07  7:15         ` Noah Evans
2004-07-06 13:16 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-06 14:01   ` lucio
2004-07-07  1:03   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07  1:14     ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-07  1:27     ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-13  5:42   ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13  5:50     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-13  5:58       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13  9:04       ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-13  5:55     ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13  8:56       ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-13  9:16         ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-15  0:56 ` Kenji Okamoto

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