From: "Nigel Roles" <nigel@9fs.org>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: RE: [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 22:52:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <HOEHIDJJJINMLFPOLFJCCEJODFAA.nigel@9fs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0407091437160.22569-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>
> yes, USB is a train wreck and an unnecessary one at that. All they
> had to do was add power wires to enet and all would have been well.
>
> But we're stuck with USB. Look around and you can see all the
> junk running
> on it. It would be nice if Plan 9 could play.
>
> ron
Ethernet interfaces still cost more than usb interfaces all this
time later. CF cards for my camera have USB built in; that simply
would not happen if ethernet was used. At the time, the 1.2mbps
interface was available on 8051 silicon for free. USB could address
many devices through very low cost hubs, at a time when ethernet
hubs were very costly.
Now, USB 2.0 offers 480mbps from $20 host controllers. How much
for the equivalent gigabit ethernet interface and switch?
You might regard it as a train wreck, but the technical requirement
and demand was and still is there.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-09 21:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-06 8:11 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-07-06 11:21 ` bituman
2004-07-06 11:52 ` gabriel diaz
2004-07-06 12:14 ` Matthias Teege
2004-07-06 12:23 ` lucio
2004-07-06 12:33 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-06 15:20 ` matt
2004-07-06 15:20 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-07 9:11 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-07 10:57 ` matt
2004-07-07 16:22 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-07 16:58 ` jmk
2004-07-08 10:12 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 11:35 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-07 21:49 ` matt
2004-07-07 21:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-08 2:40 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07 22:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:01 ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-07 23:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:25 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:54 ` jmk
2004-07-08 7:01 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-08 7:28 ` lucio
2004-07-08 23:26 ` vdharani
2004-07-08 18:25 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 23:43 ` vdharani
2004-07-08 18:43 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-08 18:34 ` Sape Mullender
2004-07-09 5:19 ` lucio
2004-07-09 5:48 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09 6:05 ` lucio
2004-07-09 9:15 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09 9:25 ` lucio
2004-07-09 10:11 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-09 10:26 ` [9fans] A Discipline of Programming lucio
2004-07-09 16:11 ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 10:34 ` [9fans] TODO lists for Plan 9 lucio
2004-07-09 11:19 ` Nigel Roles
2004-07-09 22:51 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-09 12:46 ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 16:57 ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 20:39 ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:43 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 20:49 ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:52 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-12 12:10 ` OT: " Dave Lukes
2004-07-12 14:34 ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 20:51 ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-09 20:54 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 21:03 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-07-10 0:30 ` Dan Cross
2004-07-10 2:23 ` vdharani
2004-07-09 21:42 ` Jason Gurtz
2004-07-09 20:52 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-09 20:54 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-11 14:04 ` matt
2004-07-09 21:52 ` Nigel Roles [this message]
2004-07-10 2:30 ` vdharani
2004-07-09 12:45 ` ron minnich
2004-07-09 8:45 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-09 9:09 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-09 9:12 ` Gorka Guardiola Múzquiz
2004-07-09 10:01 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-09 11:16 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-09 16:45 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-09 9:30 ` lucio
2004-07-09 9:59 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-10 2:43 ` vdharani
2004-07-09 22:41 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-09 22:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-10 4:25 ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 15:39 ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 15:41 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-06 15:44 ` ron minnich
2004-07-06 16:19 ` C H Forsyth
2004-07-07 5:46 ` lucio
2004-07-07 10:56 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-07-07 17:56 ` C H Forsyth
2004-07-07 18:09 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2004-07-07 18:59 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-07 23:30 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-07-08 7:16 ` lucio
2004-07-07 21:30 ` Nicholas Waples
2004-07-06 13:14 ` andrey mirtchovski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-08 18:34 Brantley Coile
2004-07-06 7:26 Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06 8:02 ` Matthias Teege
2004-07-06 8:11 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06 8:19 ` lucio
2004-07-06 10:57 ` Steve Simon
2004-07-06 11:08 ` Boris Maryshev
2004-07-06 12:15 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-06 12:25 ` lucio
2004-07-07 1:26 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-06 12:33 ` Noah Evans
2004-07-07 0:54 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07 4:03 ` Noah Evans
2004-07-07 4:43 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07 7:15 ` Noah Evans
2004-07-06 13:16 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-06 14:01 ` lucio
2004-07-07 1:03 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-07 1:14 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-07 1:27 ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-13 5:42 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13 5:50 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-13 5:58 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13 9:04 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-13 5:55 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-13 8:56 ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-13 9:16 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-15 0:56 ` Kenji Okamoto
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