From: Anthony Sorace <anothy@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:13:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <509071940909030913q24d0da62x13daa9c04494964f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838f0f5ea30688aae8174b6c42844ef9@quanstro.net>
i've not used matt's sql module itself (i should check it out) so i
can't comment on his implementation, but... SQL is really ugly. it's
not hard to construct something that provides the same functionality
in a much more palatable form. aesthetics aside, if you're dealing
with a database-heavy app, it can make the code much easier to read.
somewhat harder is creating such a module in a way that's not specific
to a specific database, or even sql. this is similar (in theory) to
what the various php database modules do. this can be important if
your application is delivered/deployed in an environment where you
don't have control over what database is being used (although if the
database is important for your app, i think not having control over
the database is a poor position to be in).
not any harder but a lot less general is the option of wrapping the
database around a higher-level abstraction. you can do things like
data constraints and validations in the application code, rather than
in the sql database itself, which always feels like this random
bolt-on to the application logic. in the last large database-centered
project i was involved in, owing in large part to the lead
programmer's linguistics background, we called this the ontology
layer: it defined the things that exist. the rest of the app only had
to deal with what was in there, and it took care of mapping things to
a backing store.
at the layer of ontology, a fs-like interface can work pretty well.
i'm less convinced it's worth doing much with a lower-level database
beyond a slightly smart data channel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-03 16:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-30 7:21 Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 14:21 ` ron minnich
2009-08-30 16:19 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-30 17:07 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-30 17:40 ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2009-08-30 17:53 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] ` <c81a07350908300842w3df8321aidf55096b65eb9b77@mail.gmail.com>
2009-08-30 18:17 ` ron minnich
2009-08-30 18:35 ` ron minnich
2009-08-31 3:34 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 12:45 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 12:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 12:59 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-31 13:05 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 13:48 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-08-31 14:51 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 15:03 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-31 13:42 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:04 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 14:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:36 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 14:57 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 15:52 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 16:12 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:55 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-08-31 15:09 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 15:56 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 16:16 ` Bakul Shah
2009-08-31 16:33 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-02 16:50 ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-02 17:10 ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-03 11:21 ` matt
2009-09-03 12:50 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:13 ` Anthony Sorace [this message]
2009-09-03 16:29 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:34 ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-03 21:50 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-03 19:08 ` Steve Simon
2009-08-31 17:09 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 17:20 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 17:32 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 18:00 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 4:17 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-08-31 4:53 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 17:22 erik quanstrom
2009-08-30 17:36 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 17:56 ` erik quanstrom
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