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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:53:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89c5d8771b3e1fafe5b2102ce5f8bb4f@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f75780240908301040w3720122gc3d6a37d483035f@mail.gmail.com>

> Try this - build the source to charon over a 200ms link over 9p. Then
> try again over sshfs.

why would you do this?  why not run the compile closer to
the source.  this is the power of plan 9.

> Also, look at a single terminal with a local fossil install. Trace the
> path of an 'ls /'. Count the number of copies and context switches.
>
> Having the fastest file server in the world means nothing for file
> system performance when your path to it is a maze of twisty passages,
> all alike.

again, this is not a typical install for a performance-sensitive
system.  and i don't know that anyone ever claimed fossil
to be a high-performance file system.  running a file system in user
space is a matter of convienence, not performance.

at coraid, we run a stand-alone ken's file server.  ken's file
server has no user space.  so while there are context switches,
those are really speedy.  they take maybe a few hundred cycles.
the real win is that no data is copied from/to user space and
there is one global page table that is never changed.  there are
no tlb flushes.  those can hurt.

before the switch to nupas, we averaged 200MB/s of fileserver traffic
during the day to >50 clients on a single, fairly pedestrian
xeon 5000 machine with 3.5gb of usable memory.

perhaps my standards are low and i'm out of touch, but i don't
think nfs could do that well with that little.

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-30 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-30  7:21 Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 14:21 ` ron minnich
2009-08-30 16:19   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-30 17:07   ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-30 17:40     ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2009-08-30 17:53       ` erik quanstrom [this message]
     [not found]   ` <c81a07350908300842w3df8321aidf55096b65eb9b77@mail.gmail.com>
2009-08-30 18:17     ` ron minnich
2009-08-30 18:35       ` ron minnich
2009-08-31  3:34         ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 12:45           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 12:51             ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 12:59               ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-31 13:05                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 13:48                   ` Anthony Sorace
2009-08-31 14:51                 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 15:03                   ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-31 13:42               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:04                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 14:25                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:36                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 14:57                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 15:52                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 16:12                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:55                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-08-31 15:09                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 15:56                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 16:16                     ` Bakul Shah
2009-08-31 16:33                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-02 16:50                         ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-02 17:10                           ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-03 11:21                           ` matt
2009-09-03 12:50                             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:13                               ` Anthony Sorace
2009-09-03 16:29                                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:34                                 ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-03 21:50                                 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-03 19:08                               ` Steve Simon
2009-08-31 17:09                       ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 17:20                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 17:32                           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 18:00                             ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31  4:17 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-08-31  4:53   ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 17:22 erik quanstrom
2009-08-30 17:36 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 17:56   ` erik quanstrom

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