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From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status)
Date: Mon,  3 Jun 2013 10:33:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6283119B-D436-4027-9F0B-1E0ADE07763B@bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e82bbe14daea6ee4d072b8185f7b5ec9@ladd.quanstro.net>

On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:07 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:

> On Mon Jun  3 13:05:07 EDT 2013, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>>> if by intent, you mean that go is using xmm registers as if they were
>>> general purpose registers, then the solution is to stop doing that.
>>> and there's such a patch already.
>> 
>> No, Go's intent is to minimise runtime surprises.  It is possible to
>> define signal (calling them notes does not change their nature)
>> handlers and nothing in the Go specifications compels the user not to
>> use floating point instructions in such handlers.  It would also not
>> be possible to enforce such restrictions in known implementations of
> 
> signals are not compatable with notes.  i don't think this
> can be truely portable code anyway.

Not compatible but signals have similar restrictions. A signal may be delivered at any time where any state maintained in usercode may be inconsistent. In particular use of any non-reentrant function can cause trouble. Used to be, you don't use floating pt. in signal handlers as that would require the kernel to save more state, slowing down signal delivery, or it could cause another trap where the kernel can do the lazy saving trick. Most mallocs are non reentrant as well and you shouldn't use malloc in a handler. All in all a very restricted environment. 


  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-03 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-02 10:53 lucio
2013-06-02 14:10 ` erik quanstrom
2013-06-02 15:24   ` lucio
2013-06-03  4:20     ` erik quanstrom
2013-06-03  5:38       ` lucio
2013-06-03 13:28         ` erik quanstrom
2013-06-03 16:34           ` lucio
2013-06-03 16:46             ` erik quanstrom
2013-06-03 17:04               ` lucio
2013-06-03 17:07                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-06-03 17:33                   ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2013-06-03 17:38                 ` Charles Forsyth
2013-06-03  5:48       ` [9fans] More Go status lucio
2013-06-03 17:53       ` [9fans] SSE in a note handler Steve Simon
2013-06-02 15:01 ` [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status) cinap_lenrek
2013-06-02 15:22   ` lucio
2013-06-02 15:38     ` cinap_lenrek
2013-06-02 15:54       ` lucio
2013-06-02 15:59         ` Kurt H Maier
2013-06-02 16:08           ` lucio
2013-06-02 19:37   ` Anthony Martin
2013-12-02  2:10     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02  8:22       ` Anthony Martin
2013-12-02 14:33         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 14:59           ` lucio
2013-12-02 15:22             ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-02 17:19               ` lucio
2013-12-02 18:39                 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-02 20:09                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 20:11                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 20:22                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 20:24                       ` David du Colombier
2013-12-02 20:38                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 20:44                           ` Bakul Shah
2013-12-02 20:45                             ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 20:59                               ` Bakul Shah
2013-12-02 21:03                                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 23:35                                   ` Bakul Shah
2013-12-03  0:11                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 20:45                           ` David du Colombier
2013-12-02 21:06                           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 21:45                             ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-02 21:47                               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 21:51                             ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 23:26                               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 23:43                                 ` Steve Simon
2013-12-03  0:16                                   ` Anthony Martin
2013-12-03  2:55                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  0:12                                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  0:21                                   ` Anthony Martin
2013-12-03  0:49                                   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-12-03  0:52                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  1:01                                       ` Anthony Martin
2013-12-03  1:06                                       ` Jeremy Jackins
2013-12-03  1:34                                         ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-03  7:43                                           ` lucio
2013-12-03  7:33                                     ` lucio
2013-12-03  7:29                                   ` lucio
2013-12-03 15:20                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  7:31                                   ` lucio
2013-12-03  8:14                                     ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-03  9:16                                       ` lucio
2013-12-03  9:21                                       ` lucio
2013-12-03 14:51                                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  9:46                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2013-12-03 10:04                                         ` lucio
2013-12-03 11:39                                           ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-12-03 14:42                                           ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03 14:51                                             ` Charles Forsyth
2013-12-03 15:54                                               ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-03 16:04                                               ` lucio
2013-12-03 16:47                                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2013-12-03 17:44                                                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-03 23:12                                                   ` john francis lee
2013-12-04  0:13                                                     ` sl
2013-12-04  4:25                                                   ` lucio
2013-12-04  4:35                                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-04  6:19                                                       ` lucio
2013-12-04  7:04                                                         ` [9fans] Go port [was Re: Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status)] Jeff Sickel
2013-12-04  7:20                                                           ` [9fans] Go port [was Re: Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go lucio
2013-12-04  7:52                                                             ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-04 15:11                                                               ` lucio
2013-12-04  4:37                                                     ` [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status) Jens Staal
2013-12-04  4:46                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  7:10                                 ` lucio
2013-12-03  7:23                                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-03  7:37                                     ` lucio
2013-12-03 15:04                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  9:48                                 ` Richard Miller
2013-12-03 10:08                                   ` lucio
2013-12-03 11:14                                     ` Charles Forsyth
2013-12-03 11:24                                       ` lucio
2013-12-03  6:53                     ` lucio
2013-12-03  4:49                   ` lucio
2013-12-03  8:02                     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-03  9:12                       ` lucio
2013-12-02 15:50             ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 17:23               ` lucio
2013-12-02 18:35                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  4:35                   ` lucio
2013-12-02 22:52               ` Anthony Martin
2013-12-03  6:20                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-12-02 16:10           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 17:25             ` lucio
2013-12-02 19:13               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 19:34                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-03  6:34                   ` lucio
2013-12-03  5:02                 ` lucio
2013-12-02 17:31             ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-02 17:52               ` lucio
2013-12-02 18:33                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 19:16                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 19:26                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-02 19:33                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-02 19:31                   ` Christopher Nielsen
2013-12-02 20:17                     ` David du Colombier
2013-12-02 19:37                   ` Bakul Shah
2013-12-02 19:57                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-03  6:47                       ` lucio
2013-12-03  6:45                     ` lucio
2013-12-03  4:32                   ` lucio
2013-12-03 17:22 erik quanstrom
2013-12-03 17:37 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-03 17:59   ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-04  5:48 ` lucio

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