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From: rog@vitanuova.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] insularity
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:22:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a2483a3e86ca91902d7199212d02f44@vitanuova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb30c17697c629455d1b99fc0ac1260f@collyer.net>

> So I'm now deleting your messages on contact.

oh for f***'s sake!

ok, so david tolpin has been a bit verbose, (and we're naturally
suspicious that his deep involvement with XML implies a fundamental
lack of taste) but when it comes down to it, he's has actually dived
in there and done stuff.

most newcomers to plan 9 don't get further than booting the damn
thing.

i think people that have been involved in this stuff for a long time
forget the distance between plan 9 and other systems.  yes, most stuff
is documented (often by implication), but having someone to talk to
that knows about the system makes all the difference.  i think all
david's questions have been perfectly acceptable, and i wouldn't have
thought twice about answering them had they been asked by someone
across the room.

this system *needs* people with some energy to spare, otherwise it'll
continue to decline the way it has been since the great scattering from
bell labs.  if this is the way we treat someone who appears to have
some energy and inclination, then i've no hope at all.  i'm ashamed to
be part of this group.

> If you can't get over this initial conceptual hump,
> then fuck off back to CrapOS and leave us alone.

*cringe*



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-17 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200403161953.i2GJrNMv080779@adat.davidashen.net>
2004-03-16 22:54 ` [9fans] Novice question - run as other 9nut
2004-03-17  7:18   ` David Tolpin
2004-03-17  8:10     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-17  8:24       ` David Tolpin
2004-03-17  8:55         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-17  9:04           ` David Tolpin
2004-03-17  9:19           ` Bruce Ellis
2004-03-17 10:31           ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-17 14:01             ` Dave Lukes
2004-03-17 16:22           ` rog [this message]
2004-03-17 16:32             ` [9fans] insularity Aharon Robbins
2004-03-17 16:36             ` suspect
2004-03-17 16:48               ` lucio
2004-03-17 18:09                 ` Dave Lukes
2004-03-17 19:26                   ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-03-18 13:50                     ` Dave Lukes
2004-03-17 22:48                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-03-17 23:11                     ` David Presotto
2004-03-18  7:47                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-18  2:45                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-17 17:53             ` Dave Lukes
2004-03-17 19:12               ` Latchesar Ionkov
2004-03-17 18:56             ` vdharani
2004-03-18  2:39             ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-17  9:33     ` [9fans] Novice question - run as other 9nut
2004-03-17  8:54       ` David Tolpin
2004-03-17  8:56         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-17  9:07           ` David Tolpin
2004-03-17  9:17             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-03-17  9:28               ` David Tolpin
2004-03-17 10:08         ` 9nut
2004-03-17 16:52 [9fans] insularity Noah Evans
2004-03-17 17:24 ` ron minnich
2004-03-17 17:25 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-03-17 17:43 ` Dave Lukes
2004-03-17 17:59   ` rog
2004-03-17 17:58     ` Dave Lukes
2004-03-17 18:19       ` Don Bailey
2004-03-17 18:18         ` David Presotto
2004-03-18  7:23       ` boyd, rounin
2004-03-18  1:05 ` bs
2004-03-18  1:20   ` Taj Khattra
2004-03-17 17:53 Noah Evans
2004-03-17 18:11 Noah Evans
2004-03-18  2:08 Noah Evans
2004-03-18  8:14 ` Michael H. Collins

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