Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with ... DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with ... DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[Michael R. Batchelor]

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 a spam-bot masquerading as
Donald_at_hsuchi.net
wrote:

These stupid things to get past the spam filters:

> >There is a time to speak and a time to be silent
> >A celebrity is someone who works hard all his life to become
> >known and then wears dark glasses to avoid being recognized.
>

And then this followed by some stuff that I deleted:

> This blond old sweetie is ready to show some action.

I'm not a prude, but I get enough spam in my mailbox. Is it
finally time for a moderator to take over the list?

MB
--
Michael R. Batchelor - Industrial Informatics, Inc.
Contribute to society: http://www.distributed.net/ogr/

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with ...DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[boyd, rounin]

> I'm not a prude, but I get enough spam in my mailbox. Is it
> finally time for a moderator to take over the list?

no

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with

[Brantley Coile]

>> I'm not a prude, but I get enough spam in my mailbox. Is it
>> finally time for a moderator to take over the list?
>
> no

Boyd would say that.

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with ... DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[Scott Schwartz]

How about if we try setting the list to allow postings only from subscribers?

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with... DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[boyd, rounin]

> How about if we try setting the list to allow postings only from subscribers?

i could cope with that.

but then they'd use our addresses.

time for new protocols.

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with ... DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[William Josephson]

On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 05:56:42PM -0400, Scott Schwartz wrote:
> How about if we try setting the list to allow postings only from subscribers?

Most of the spam I get found its way to me via 9fans.
Twice I forgot to permute my address and the result has
been a deluge because the archives don't honor X-No-Archive
and do not make an effort to obscure addresses.  Ironically,
closing the list in this manner would result in more spam!

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with... DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[Michael R. Batchelor]

Well, I'm certain the message I complained about in the
beginning wasn't really sent by the person whose account it
came from. SO my guess is that you're absolutely correct. They'd
just use our addresses.

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, boyd, rounin wrote:

> > How about if we try setting the list to allow postings only
> > from subscribers?
>
> i could cope with that.
>
> but then they'd use our addresses.
>
> time for new protocols.


--
Michael R. Batchelor - Industrial Informatics, Inc.
Contribute to society: http://www.distributed.net/ogr/

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[Donald]

>There is a time to speak and a time to be silent
>A celebrity is someone who works hard all his life to become known and then wears dark glasses to avoid being recognized.

This blond old sweetie is ready to show some action.
She s got enough experience to blow your fucking mind away.
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Fucking hard, real hard.
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>Never make a mountain out of a molehill - The mountain will arrive soon enough
>Hunger is the best sauce

Re: Is there a moderated list? (Was Re: [9fans] Aunty playing with...DELETED FOR MIXED COMPANY )

[boyd, rounin]

> SO my guess is that you're absolutely correct. They'd
> just use our addresses.

;)

after a quick few words with andrey we agreed that either:

    - killing the newsgroup, because it leaks info
    - mangling the addresses, by the news/mail gateway

would raise the bar a bit.

subscription should be done in some sort of style where
it has to be a human who's doing it (i'm sure you've
all seen the 'type characters in this image' subscription
tactic).  machine subscription should be eliminated.

but, as we thrashed to death about a year back, we
need new protocols.

[9fans] Raise the bar

[Eric Van Hensbergen]

I propose we move to a three level scheme - two regular mailing lists
for users and whiners (respectively) and a developers list that can only
be posted to from inside 9 or Inferno.

   -eric

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 5:46pm, boyd, rounin wrote:
>>  SO my guess is that you're absolutely correct. They'd
>>  just use our addresses.
>
> ;)
>
> after a quick few words with andrey we agreed that either:
>
>     - killing the newsgroup, because it leaks info
>     - mangling the addresses, by the news/mail gateway
>
> would raise the bar a bit.
>
> subscription should be done in some sort of style where
> it has to be a human who's doing it (i'm sure you've
> all seen the 'type characters in this image' subscription
> tactic).  machine subscription should be eliminated.
>
> but, as we thrashed to death about a year back, we
> need new protocols.

Re: [9fans] Raise the bar

[Geoff Collyer]

Here's a strawman* proposal for the developers' list:

Everybody who posts to it already has or can get an account on
sources.  If the labs will let us use the sources authentication
server for this purpose, we require someone sending mail to the list
to 9fs to the machine holding the archives and mailing out the copies.
They execute (probably encapsulated in a shell script, say
/n/9fans/rc/bin/9fans):

	9fs 9fans &&
	mount -b /n/9fans/mail/box /mail/box &&
	mount /n/9fans/mail/lib /mail/lib &&
	mail 9fans

A copy is appended to the archive mailbox (without using SMTP) and
copies are mailed out to the list subscribers (or perhaps they can
just read the archive mailbox if they prefer).

Obviously one can set upasname, but the point is not flawless
authentication (though that can be had by looking at the logs on
9fans), but simply keeping out those without accounts on sources.

___
* basis for discussion

Re: [9fans] Raise the bar

[Rob Pike]

you're just creating an ad hoc spam fighter. there is
marginal upside and much downside.

don't bother.

-rob