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From: boyd@sdgm.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie: life without rio
Date: Mon,  6 Oct 2003 05:30:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a6947fba578570dfacd178fa5ebcae6@sdgm.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <j2WdnQYiQaHQF-KiXTWJhQ@comcast.com>

    Pepper spray is too often ineffective to be one's
    defensive weapon of choice.

that even extends to guns.  the T may still be up for a 'while',
depending on a number of factors.

    It may be reasonable to expect police to be prepared with
    a range of options for level of force employed, but it's
    going to far to expect civilians to carry such an array of
    equipment.

you need escalation (in general).  pepper got me out of an L
shaped ambush one night -- stand off range; it wasn't amazingly
effective, but it worked [tactically].


  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-06  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-04 15:58 Jack Johnson
2003-10-06  9:02 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-10-06  9:30   ` boyd [this message]
2003-10-06 10:03   ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-06 10:09     ` boyd
2003-10-06 10:24       ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-06 10:43         ` boyd
2003-10-06  9:44 ` Brian Inglis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-06 10:30 Tiit Lankots
2003-10-06 10:40 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-10-06 10:28 Tiit Lankots
2003-10-06 10:44 ` boyd
2003-10-04 15:50 Jack Johnson
2003-10-03  9:11 Tiit Lankots
2003-10-02  7:46 Tiit Lankots
2003-10-02  7:49 ` Stephen Wynne
2003-10-02 16:39   ` splite
2003-10-02 17:24     ` David Lukes
2003-10-02 21:02       ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-02 21:06         ` David Presotto
2003-10-02 21:11           ` boydomatic
2003-10-02 21:22             ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-03  1:18             ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-02 21:20           ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-02 18:13     ` jmk
2003-10-02 18:19       ` ron minnich
2003-10-02 21:13         ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-03  8:44         ` kim kubik
2003-10-03  9:04           ` boyd
2003-10-03 13:38           ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-10-03 13:39             ` david presotto
2003-10-03 13:49               ` david presotto
2003-10-03 16:32                 ` Dan Cross
2003-10-03 16:34                   ` Dan Cross
2003-10-03 16:34                   ` David Presotto
2003-10-03 16:42                   ` ron minnich
2003-10-06  9:01                     ` kim kubik
2003-10-06  9:32                       ` boyd
2003-10-03 17:10                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-10-04  8:02                   ` boyd
2003-10-04  8:00                 ` boyd
2003-10-04  7:57               ` boyd
2003-10-02 20:37       ` boyd
2003-10-02 21:11       ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-06  8:08       ` vdharani
2003-10-02  7:52 ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-03 17:36 ` a
2003-10-03 17:47   ` rog
2003-10-04  1:53     ` rob pike, esq.
2003-10-04  8:17       ` boyd
2003-10-04  8:14     ` boyd
2003-10-04  8:06   ` boyd
2003-10-01 14:29 Russ Cox
2003-10-01 14:24 Rasputin
2003-10-01 14:44 ` rog
2003-10-01 19:27   ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-01 22:32     ` ron minnich
2003-10-01 23:10       ` boyd, rounin
2003-10-01 15:14 ` mirtchov
2003-10-02  0:49 ` okamoto
2003-10-02  2:33   ` okamoto
2003-10-03 13:12     ` Rasputin
2003-10-03 14:31       ` jmk
2003-10-03 19:03         ` Rasputin
2003-10-03 19:20           ` jmk
2003-10-06 11:06             ` Rasputin
2003-10-06 11:11               ` boyd
2003-10-07  0:53               ` okamoto

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