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From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:32:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <822d83b1d1404e59fefeeb19570a33b7@caldo.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7464bba28c53e2ef0be69f3e7b20427@collyer.net>

>>thought they had a complete, ready-to-sell system.  As you can see
>>from all the work that Vitanuova have done since, that was not true.

it depends: for what their customers often had in mind to do with it, it was usable.
(what was sometimes done with it wasn't sufficiently inspired, i suppose.)
i have had some experience of VxWorks source
code, and `BSPs' for a few other systems, let alone `embedded' Linux,
and inferno as it was was a good order of magnitude beyond that.  it
had (has) bugs but the space in which they were (are) located was
finite.  `you can always think of something better to do'.
it didn't make much progress because too much time was spent chasing Sun's tales.

fear, uncertainty, doubt: these are the feelings i get when i must wade
through Linux code to find out how some device works.
fear that i'll not remain sane (temper long since lost); uncertainty where to
look next for what i want; doubt that it will be worth finding when i finally locate it.

instead of yet more bloody web browsers, if they've got time why don't people get
a DVD player going (so i needn't boot up windows at all)?  i find films more entertaining than games.
i looked at porting one briefly, but Plan 9 doesn't run unix c programs either.
actually, APE does manage unix programs but this was something else again.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-18  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-17  3:26 [9fans] fortune-worthy andrey mirtchovski
2003-12-17  4:15 ` ron minnich
2003-12-17  4:47   ` okamoto
2003-12-17  4:54     ` ron minnich
2003-12-17  5:37       ` okamoto
2003-12-18  2:21       ` bs
2003-12-17  9:59     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-12-17 10:58       ` Matthias Teege
2003-12-17 12:01         ` Brantley Coile
2003-12-17 10:02 ` Anastasopoulos S
2003-12-17 14:29   ` David Presotto
2003-12-17 14:52     ` suspect
2003-12-17  5:41       ` Russ Cox
2003-12-17 16:08         ` suspect
2003-12-18  1:08           ` inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy) Geoff Collyer
2003-12-18  8:32             ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2003-12-18  9:18               ` Geoff Collyer
2003-12-18 11:32                 ` a
2003-12-18 14:09                 ` mirtchov
2003-12-18 16:03                   ` David Presotto
2003-12-18 16:34                     ` rog
2003-12-18 16:29                       ` Russ Cox
2003-12-19  1:27                         ` okamoto
2003-12-18 16:39                       ` a
2003-12-19  4:59                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 19:19                           ` a
2003-12-18 17:38                             ` Russ Cox
2003-12-18 17:02                       ` David Presotto
2003-12-20  1:20                       ` cd ripping (was Re: inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy)) Christopher Nielsen
2003-12-20  1:43                         ` David Presotto
2003-12-20  2:27                           ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-12-18 18:16                     ` inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy) Joel Salomon
2003-12-18 20:22                     ` jmk
2003-12-19  6:38                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-19  9:16                       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-12-19 11:39                         ` Geoff Collyer
2003-12-19 19:19                         ` Dan Cross
2003-12-18 11:40               ` a
2003-12-18 11:24             ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18  1:44               ` Geoff Collyer
2003-12-18 11:47                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 11:49               ` Brantley Coile
2003-12-18 21:57                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 14:54                   ` Brantley Coile
2003-12-17 14:52     ` [9fans] fortune-worthy Brantley Coile
2003-12-17 15:24       ` David Presotto
2003-12-18  7:57         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-12-18 12:20           ` David Presotto
2003-12-18 12:36             ` David Arnold
2003-12-18 22:38               ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-19  2:28                 ` bs
2003-12-18 21:19           ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-19  3:32           ` Drawterm and Inferno? Was: " Martin C.Atkins
2003-12-19  8:18             ` Charles Forsyth
2003-12-19  8:26               ` Martin C.Atkins
2003-12-19 15:21             ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-17 17:47       ` Charles Forsyth
2003-12-17 17:56         ` ron minnich
2003-12-17 19:06           ` David Presotto
2003-12-17 16:54     ` Lucio De Re
2003-12-17 16:55       ` Lucio De Re
2003-12-18 12:03     ` a
2003-12-18 15:12       ` Sam
2003-12-18 15:13         ` George Michaelson
2003-12-19  4:52         ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 21:21       ` Dan Cross
2003-12-19  1:38         ` okamoto
2003-12-19  7:33         ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 22:34       ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-17 16:32   ` John Stalker
2003-12-17 16:35   ` John Stalker
2003-12-17 16:41     ` mirtchov
2003-12-17 21:55     ` Micah Stetson
2003-12-17 22:15       ` mirtchov
2003-12-17 17:12   ` Dennis D. Jensen

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