From: ron minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:54:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0312162150030.29218-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec94c93f9317b1c8700d2a125647ffab@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote:
> However, now, things have been changed, that is, now most of computer
> users are naive users, and they don't want to LEARN computers.
In the great days of the 70s, I was a card punch/tape jockey. People were
pretty naive users then, believe me. The expectation then was that unix
was a nice toy, but the real work would always be done on OS/370. Unix
even had to have a JCL command for a while (according to an old V5 man set
I once had) for submitting batch jobs to "real" computers.
Some things never change, and resistance to new technology is one of them.
But, sooner or later, better new stuff will beat out older crap stuff. It
just always takes too long, and its easy to get discouraged. Plus, Plan 9
has this artificial and unnecessary 10-year delay thrown in -- it would
have been easier had Plan 9 made it out in '91, as we all hoped it would.
ron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-17 4:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-17 3:26 andrey mirtchovski
2003-12-17 4:15 ` ron minnich
2003-12-17 4:47 ` okamoto
2003-12-17 4:54 ` ron minnich [this message]
2003-12-17 5:37 ` okamoto
2003-12-18 2:21 ` bs
2003-12-17 9:59 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-12-17 10:58 ` Matthias Teege
2003-12-17 12:01 ` Brantley Coile
2003-12-17 10:02 ` Anastasopoulos S
2003-12-17 14:29 ` David Presotto
2003-12-17 14:52 ` suspect
2003-12-17 5:41 ` Russ Cox
2003-12-17 16:08 ` suspect
2003-12-18 1:08 ` inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy) Geoff Collyer
2003-12-18 8:32 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-12-18 9:18 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-12-18 11:32 ` a
2003-12-18 14:09 ` mirtchov
2003-12-18 16:03 ` David Presotto
2003-12-18 16:34 ` rog
2003-12-18 16:29 ` Russ Cox
2003-12-19 1:27 ` okamoto
2003-12-18 16:39 ` a
2003-12-19 4:59 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 19:19 ` a
2003-12-18 17:38 ` Russ Cox
2003-12-18 17:02 ` David Presotto
2003-12-20 1:20 ` cd ripping (was Re: inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy)) Christopher Nielsen
2003-12-20 1:43 ` David Presotto
2003-12-20 2:27 ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-12-18 18:16 ` inferno (was Re: [9fans] fortune-worthy) Joel Salomon
2003-12-18 20:22 ` jmk
2003-12-19 6:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-19 9:16 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-12-19 11:39 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-12-19 19:19 ` Dan Cross
2003-12-18 11:40 ` a
2003-12-18 11:24 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 1:44 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-12-18 11:47 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 11:49 ` Brantley Coile
2003-12-18 21:57 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 14:54 ` Brantley Coile
2003-12-17 14:52 ` [9fans] fortune-worthy Brantley Coile
2003-12-17 15:24 ` David Presotto
2003-12-18 7:57 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-12-18 12:20 ` David Presotto
2003-12-18 12:36 ` David Arnold
2003-12-18 22:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-19 2:28 ` bs
2003-12-18 21:19 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-19 3:32 ` Drawterm and Inferno? Was: " Martin C.Atkins
2003-12-19 8:18 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-12-19 8:26 ` Martin C.Atkins
2003-12-19 15:21 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-17 17:47 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-12-17 17:56 ` ron minnich
2003-12-17 19:06 ` David Presotto
2003-12-17 16:54 ` Lucio De Re
2003-12-17 16:55 ` Lucio De Re
2003-12-18 12:03 ` a
2003-12-18 15:12 ` Sam
2003-12-18 15:13 ` George Michaelson
2003-12-19 4:52 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 21:21 ` Dan Cross
2003-12-19 1:38 ` okamoto
2003-12-19 7:33 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-18 22:34 ` boyd, rounin
2003-12-17 16:32 ` John Stalker
2003-12-17 16:35 ` John Stalker
2003-12-17 16:41 ` mirtchov
2003-12-17 21:55 ` Micah Stetson
2003-12-17 22:15 ` mirtchov
2003-12-17 17:12 ` Dennis D. Jensen
2003-12-17 5:21 cej
2003-12-17 5:27 cej
2003-12-17 5:41 ` okamoto
2003-12-17 6:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-12-17 6:07 ` okamoto
2003-12-17 10:31 ` a
2003-12-17 5:42 cej
2003-12-19 6:15 cej
2003-12-20 3:29 Skip Tavakkolian
2003-12-20 2:41 ` David Presotto
2003-12-20 6:16 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-12-20 6:20 ` Skip Tavakkolian
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