Re: [9fans] GSoC 2012

[Paschke Christoph <c.paschke@me.com>]

Here is the italian "hell tutorial" I used with google translator. I let google translate it to german but I see, that it also translate to english with HELL etc.

http://basile.web.cs.unibo.it/inferno/

This was a quite good getting starting guide what I still found in english:
http://www.resc.rdg.ac.uk/twiki/bin/view/Resc/InfernoTutorial

With this 2 documents I got it run.

How I came to this Plan 9 base?
It's also funny. I was looking for an efficient GUI and I found some from a canadian programer. It was written in Ada and bound to the ncurses Library in C. So, you can used it in Linux, it has 600 function, really a big library and the text style matching my needs. But I watching out for a more distributed app concept, for a GUI that is distributed architecture, for application framework under witch distributed apps can reside etc. This distributed concept I had in mind and I asking the canadian developer of his GUI how it will be such way, it will not get work such way, I wish it would exist something that each driver and ressource can be connected with like a file so the GUI would be fine to get distributed.

I watching other Windowing solutions and find the name Rio. We have a parrot and it's name is Rio and I called my 8 year old daughter for fun: Oh, I found my solution, Rio!

From Rio I found to Plan 9 and from that place I recognized that this distributed OS and everything is a file was exactly that discussion I had before with the canadian developer of the Ada GUI. So other's also had that idea once a time. And when I see the name Bell Labs, Kernighan, Denis Richie, I know: Ok, this is something more than only a cloud that comes and goes. I see the little mem resources it needs and some other things and quite happy about such base already existing.

Who I came to inferno? I think it was the name Denis Richie who was involved in this project and it was the good entry website of vitanuova. It gives with this picture some idea of a working system, kind of a product, whereas the Plan 9 Webpage is really also like a university research project. So, I for me understand, that Inferno is something for normal user and Plan 9 is something for students and university. Maybe I'm wrong, but such my feeling. And so I got forward ...

Am 16.03.2012 um 02:32 schrieb Jerome Ibanes:

> That's funny, could you point me to this document?
> 
> 
> J.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Paschke Christoph <c.paschke@me.com>
> Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM
> Subject: [9fans] GSoC 2012
> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
> 
> 
> Sure, a project around a good installer is quite useful that people
> not get frustrated already at the beginning in the trial of a new
> system. And doing a good installer is sure code based.
> 
> I started with Inferno at emu and this was still a quite easy way
> although the installation description was not good. I got it to work
> on my Mac after reading some more letters and descriptions. It was
> quite funny how I got it run. I found an italian installation
> description and use the google translator. But the google translator
> tell me: "How to install the hell" because Inferno is translated with
> HELL. And when the translator talk about Limbo (what is in english
> Limbus pre-hell), he said such things like: "This is the folder you
> find the pre-hell" But with this hell and pre-hell (limbus)
> translation I got the installation done ;-)
> Sure, this is not the classical way what believe an operating system
> is installed. But if you install an "Inferno" you need expect
> everything, isn't it. After the installation I thought: Not so bad
> hell, now it's running. And pre-hell is already waiting to get
> inspected.