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* [9fans] gumstix displays
@ 2010-12-08 21:29 ron minnich
  2010-12-08 21:36 ` Jacob Todd
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From: ron minnich @ 2010-12-08 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

I just noticed this one:
http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=244

there's even a $45 one. I may get one and see. Terminals keep getting cheaper.

ron



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-08 21:29 [9fans] gumstix displays ron minnich
@ 2010-12-08 21:36 ` Jacob Todd
  2010-12-08 21:41   ` John Floren
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From: Jacob Todd @ 2010-12-08 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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Seems a little small for a terminal, 4.3" at 480x272 resolution. Maybe I'm
crazy.

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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-08 21:36 ` Jacob Todd
@ 2010-12-08 21:41   ` John Floren
  2010-12-08 23:29     ` hiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: John Floren @ 2010-12-08 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jacob Todd <jaketodd422@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems a little small for a terminal, 4.3" at 480x272 resolution. Maybe I'm
> crazy.

That's better than what you got on the iPaq, and I found that to be
reasonably usable.


John



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-08 21:41   ` John Floren
@ 2010-12-08 23:29     ` hiro
  2010-12-09  0:00       ` John Floren
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2010-12-08 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

There have been cheaper terminals for ages.
But small may look nice in some cases...



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-08 23:29     ` hiro
@ 2010-12-09  0:00       ` John Floren
  2010-12-09  2:13         ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: John Floren @ 2010-12-09  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM, hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote:
> There have been cheaper terminals for ages.
> But small may look nice in some cases...
>
>

If you can point me at such a cheap graphical terminal that is still
being made, I just might buy one tonight :) "Grab a pentium from the
loading dock" doesn't count!

John



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09  2:13         ` erik quanstrom
@ 2010-12-09  1:13           ` Lucio De Re
  2010-12-09 12:19             ` erik quanstrom
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From: Lucio De Re @ 2010-12-09  1:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> if you want to go for a cheap atom, i think
> you can beat that price.

Yes, but two weeks later you can't get the same device anymore, even
though the successor, incompatible in fifteen different ways, is 2 USD
cheaper.  And all of it is buggy in some fashion or other.  And VGA is
its own reward.

Ron has a point.

++L




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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09  0:00       ` John Floren
@ 2010-12-09  2:13         ` erik quanstrom
  2010-12-09  1:13           ` Lucio De Re
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2010-12-09  2:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

On Wed Dec  8 19:00:57 EST 2010, slawmaster@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM, hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > There have been cheaper terminals for ages.
> > But small may look nice in some cases...
> >
> >
>
> If you can point me at such a cheap graphical terminal that is still
> being made, I just might buy one tonight :) "Grab a pentium from the
> loading dock" doesn't count!

it shouldn't be difficult to beat the gumstix on a pure
cost basis.  by the time you put together a complete computer
with a power supply, ethernet and display, they're at least $300
without a case. if you want to go for a cheap atom, i think
you can beat that price.

- erik



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09  1:13           ` Lucio De Re
@ 2010-12-09 12:19             ` erik quanstrom
  2010-12-09 17:16               ` hiro
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2010-12-09 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lucio, 9fans

On Wed Dec  8 22:14:45 EST 2010, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > if you want to go for a cheap atom, i think
> > you can beat that price.
>
> Yes, but two weeks later you can't get the same device anymore, even
> though the successor, incompatible in fifteen different ways, is 2 USD
> cheaper.  And all of it is buggy in some fashion or other.  And VGA is
> its own reward.

that's simply not true.  i wouldn't recommend bad solutions.

i use this motherboard
	http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/945/X7SLA.cfm?typ=H
and this motherboard
	http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm?typ=H

they're not cheep.  but with a $100 chassis+power supply, you have a $230-260
computer that's pretty fast (especially compared to a gumstix) and will Just work
with 9atom.  the first motherboard is completely fanless.  these motherboards
have been around for more than a year, and they're listed as "embedded", which
means long support life.

i'm sure there are better and cheeper motherboards out there.  i stopped looking
when i found one that worked well.

- erik



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09 12:19             ` erik quanstrom
@ 2010-12-09 17:16               ` hiro
  2010-12-09 17:17                 ` hiro
  2010-12-09 17:22                 ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2010-12-09 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Erik, if I want "fast" I know where to look.

I still have a 20€ seagate dockstar wasting my electricity for debian.
Bad as a terminal but maybe something for a server. I'm still unsure
if I should solder some serial. Did somebody already try plan 9 on
this box?



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09 17:16               ` hiro
@ 2010-12-09 17:17                 ` hiro
  2010-12-09 17:34                   ` Bakul Shah
  2010-12-09 17:22                 ` erik quanstrom
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: hiro @ 2010-12-09 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

I forgot to make this fortune nomination: "i wouldn't recommend bad solutions."



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09 17:16               ` hiro
  2010-12-09 17:17                 ` hiro
@ 2010-12-09 17:22                 ` erik quanstrom
  2010-12-09 17:34                   ` ron minnich
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2010-12-09 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

On Thu Dec  9 12:17:28 EST 2010, 23hiro@googlemail.com wrote:
> Erik, if I want "fast" I know where to look.

i believe the op's original adjective cheep. not fast.

- erik



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09 17:22                 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2010-12-09 17:34                   ` ron minnich
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: ron minnich @ 2010-12-09 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
> On Thu Dec  9 12:17:28 EST 2010, 23hiro@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Erik, if I want "fast" I know where to look.
>
> i believe the op's original adjective cheep. not fast.


another part of my objective is open down to the metal. PCs just are
not in that space any more, at least not for me.

In fact PCs are now living the innovator's dilemma.

ron



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* Re: [9fans] gumstix displays
  2010-12-09 17:17                 ` hiro
@ 2010-12-09 17:34                   ` Bakul Shah
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bakul Shah @ 2010-12-09 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:17:17 +0100 hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com>  wrote:
> I forgot to make this fortune nomination: "i wouldn't recommend bad solutions
> ."

Except to your "frenemies"?



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2010-12-08 21:36 ` Jacob Todd
2010-12-08 21:41   ` John Floren
2010-12-08 23:29     ` hiro
2010-12-09  0:00       ` John Floren
2010-12-09  2:13         ` erik quanstrom
2010-12-09  1:13           ` Lucio De Re
2010-12-09 12:19             ` erik quanstrom
2010-12-09 17:16               ` hiro
2010-12-09 17:17                 ` hiro
2010-12-09 17:34                   ` Bakul Shah
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