[9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Anthony Sorace]

http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8

Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?

Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Charles Forsyth]

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I think that sums up why we never got as far as we'd hoped.

On 1 April 2015 at 16:46, Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> wrote:

> http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>
> Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[cigar562hfsp952fans]

Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:

> http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>
> Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?

For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
link?

Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Zachary Kaplan]

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FWIW 9fans.net is down. anyone know whats up? causing a bunch of stir on
github:

https://github.com/rogpeppe/godef/issues/4
https://github.com/fatih/vim-go/issues/368

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org> wrote:

> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>
> > http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
> >
> > Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>
> For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
> link?
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Steven Stallion]

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It was probably a matter of time. IIRC, the mail archive stopped recording
messages sometime in 11/2014.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com> wrote:

> FWIW 9fans.net is down. anyone know whats up? causing a bunch of stir on
> github:
>
> https://github.com/rogpeppe/godef/issues/4
> https://github.com/fatih/vim-go/issues/368
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>>
>> > http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>> >
>> > Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>>
>> For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
>> link?
>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Zachary Kaplan]

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whos in charge of https://github.com/9fans/?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Steven Stallion <sstallion@gmail.com> wrote:

> It was probably a matter of time. IIRC, the mail archive stopped recording
> messages sometime in 11/2014.
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com>
> wrote:
>
>> FWIW 9fans.net is down. anyone know whats up? causing a bunch of stir on
>> github:
>>
>> https://github.com/rogpeppe/godef/issues/4
>> https://github.com/fatih/vim-go/issues/368
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>>>
>>> > http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>>> >
>>> > Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>>>
>>> For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
>>> link?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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i think only the http traffic is having problems (but research.swtch.com is
ok). these messages are obviously getting distributed through a 9fans.net
server.

my guess -- based on godev/gonuts traffic -- is that rsc is very busy with
go1.5 and probably not dealing with http server shenanigans at the moment.
 if anyone is having problems with go imports that get redirected through
9fans.net, use the suggested git clone work around.


On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com> wrote:

> whos in charge of https://github.com/9fans/?
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Steven Stallion <sstallion@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It was probably a matter of time. IIRC, the mail archive stopped
>> recording messages sometime in 11/2014.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW 9fans.net is down. anyone know whats up? causing a bunch of stir
>>> on github:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/rogpeppe/godef/issues/4
>>> https://github.com/fatih/vim-go/issues/368
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>>>> >
>>>> > Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>>>>
>>>> For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
>>>> link?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Zachary Kaplan]

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@skip more importantly, we should use github for code hosting since it's
obviously more reliable and the code is already hosted there.

instead of making users do some hacky git clone lets go ahead and change
the import statements in the github repository to point to github itself.
then all other developers can pull from github.com and not 9fans.net.

once we find out who's in charge of the 9fans github organization, i'll
create a pull request

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com
> wrote:

> i think only the http traffic is having problems (but research.swtch.com
> is ok). these messages are obviously getting distributed through a
> 9fans.net server.
>
> my guess -- based on godev/gonuts traffic -- is that rsc is very busy with
> go1.5 and probably not dealing with http server shenanigans at the moment.
>  if anyone is having problems with go imports that get redirected through
> 9fans.net, use the suggested git clone work around.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com>
> wrote:
>
>> whos in charge of https://github.com/9fans/?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Steven Stallion <sstallion@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It was probably a matter of time. IIRC, the mail archive stopped
>>> recording messages sometime in 11/2014.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FWIW 9fans.net is down. anyone know whats up? causing a bunch of stir
>>>> on github:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/rogpeppe/godef/issues/4
>>>> https://github.com/fatih/vim-go/issues/368
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> > http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>>>>>
>>>>> For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
>>>>> link?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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i'm pretty sure rsc is the owner of the 9fans repo on github.

i think one of the reasons 'go get' handles redirects is to deal with cases
when a repo changes location (like when a lot of stuff had to move from
code.google.com to github.com or bitbucket.org recently). even if the
generic repo site (e.g. 9fans.net) is maintained by a group of people ,
there will be times when that site is down.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com> wrote:

> @skip more importantly, we should use github for code hosting since it's
> obviously more reliable and the code is already hosted there.
>
> instead of making users do some hacky git clone lets go ahead and change
> the import statements in the github repository to point to github itself.
> then all other developers can pull from github.com and not 9fans.net.
>
> once we find out who's in charge of the 9fans github organization, i'll
> create a pull request
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
> skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i think only the http traffic is having problems (but research.swtch.com
>> is ok). these messages are obviously getting distributed through a
>> 9fans.net server.
>>
>> my guess -- based on godev/gonuts traffic -- is that rsc is very busy
>> with go1.5 and probably not dealing with http server shenanigans at the
>> moment.  if anyone is having problems with go imports that get redirected
>> through 9fans.net, use the suggested git clone work around.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> whos in charge of https://github.com/9fans/?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Steven Stallion <sstallion@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was probably a matter of time. IIRC, the mail archive stopped
>>>> recording messages sometime in 11/2014.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Zachary Kaplan <razic@viralkitty.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FWIW 9fans.net is down. anyone know whats up? causing a bunch of stir
>>>>> on github:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/rogpeppe/godef/issues/4
>>>>> https://github.com/fatih/vim-go/issues/368
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the benefit of those of us without Web access, what's behind that
>>>>>> link?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[cigar562hfsp952fans]

Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> writes:

> i think one of the reasons 'go get' handles redirects is to deal with cases
> when a repo changes location (like when a lot of stuff had to move from
> code.google.com to github.com or bitbucket.org recently). even if the
> generic repo site (e.g. 9fans.net) is maintained by a group of people ,
> there will be times when that site is down.

Am I to infer from this that 9fans.net hosts a development repo for go,
as well as the mailing list?  Still, what's this about a new slogan?  Or
is having a new slogan just an "inside" joke that went over my head?

Re: [9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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9fans.net doesn't host the content (all are on github.com), but you can get
Go packages through (i.e. redirected through) 9fans.net. Go "get" command
allows this, so that the attribution on package imports can be something
other than where it is hosted.

so, you can:

$ go get 9fans.net/go

which will actually get the content from github.com/9fans/go repository,
but programs using its packages will import them with a 9fans.net import
path:

import (
"9fans.net/go/plan9"
"9fans.net/go/plan9/client"
)

btw, the above repository (which is the work of Russ and Rob) includes a
pdp1 emulator, along with the original spacewar game! it has a 9P
implementation and packages for talking with p9p services like draw, acme
and plumb.

lastly, there's no inside to the joke about change in slogan; did you look
at the twitter link that Anthony sent at the start of this thread?


On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:33 AM <cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org> wrote:

> Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > i think one of the reasons 'go get' handles redirects is to deal with
> cases
> > when a repo changes location (like when a lot of stuff had to move from
> > code.google.com to github.com or bitbucket.org recently). even if the
> > generic repo site (e.g. 9fans.net) is maintained by a group of people ,
> > there will be times when that site is down.
>
> Am I to infer from this that 9fans.net hosts a development repo for go,
> as well as the mailing list?  Still, what's this about a new slogan?  Or
> is having a new slogan just an "inside" joke that went over my head?
>
>

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