Re: [9fans] 'wall' messages

[Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>]

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, andrey mirtchovski wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Jim Choate wrote:
>
> > You're position basically lets the user have free reign over something
> > that isn't theirs. Yuck!
>
> how very, very wrong. if you want to be a dictator on your network you
> surely won't get many users (how many does H18 have, exactly?).

I'm not being a dictator at all. I'm simply ensuring that bootes who is
responsible for the integrity of the system (which if compromised effects
-all- users) can reach all users easily and in a -elegant- way (as in
simple, easy to follow). Having to invoke several other programs and jump
through hoops that can be accomplished by a simple extension is the wrong
approach. Complicating the users environment is -never- a -good- thing,

It's not supposed to be a IQ test, it's supposed to do the work for you.

> in the real world, users are exactly the ones who pay for the hardware
> you want to 'play god' on; sysadmins are only there to protect them from
> each other.

And the sys admin.

Bottom line, it should be simple and consistent. A wo access to local
resources for users is not unreasonable.

I challenge you to specifically detail why this is being a dictator.

Extreme claims require extreme evidence.

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