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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 15:30:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a34d5d706008bc617be48e95cd167cd9@mikro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABwHSOshOWvaBZkYZmmXJbfcKfmZQNOi=8imUgKdEppKtSSO3A@mail.gmail.com>

> I, respectfully, disagree.  The end purpose of any OS, platform, or program
> is to perform some sort of function.  That end function is called an app.

the distinction between the os an application is illusionary.  redefineing terms
a little bit doesn't clear anything up.

what an os allows one to accomplish may also be meta.  trying new ideas out
is certanly useful even if it doesn't result in something useful.

>  An app can be targeted at a programmer or a dumb user. The underlying
> environment (including tools) determines the available facilities a
> programmer has in order to construct said app.  Unix brings far, far better
> facilities for the programmer than does Window for the construction and
> operation of an app.

[citation needed]

> If I am not going to build an app of some sort or another, what is the
> value of Plan-9?  Am I just going to spend all day playing with the cool
> ideas with no end or purpose in mind?

your caricature is actually a pretty good use for plan 9.  there's nothing
illegitimate about research.  but not knowing what you're doing doesn't
mean fooling around all day.

but more directly to the point, plan 9 is a excellent platform for building
products.  i've been involved in building a number of plan 9 products, and
imho the work would have been much harder with the other oses i'm familiar
with.

- erik



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-15 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-15 17:05 Blake McBride
2013-12-15 17:18 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 17:51   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 18:00     ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 18:43       ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 20:30     ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2013-12-15 19:18   ` Steve Simon
2013-12-15 19:28     ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 19:31       ` Steve Simon
2013-12-15 20:03         ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 20:17           ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-15 21:17             ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 21:23               ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-16  0:30                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 21:25               ` Lee Fallat
2013-12-15 22:17                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 22:06               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-15 22:30               ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-15 22:48               ` Tristan
2013-12-15 23:28                 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-17  0:29                 ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-17  4:09                   ` Bruce Ellis
2013-12-18  9:47                     ` Conor Williams
2013-12-18 20:51                       ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-19 22:36                         ` Conor Williams
2013-12-19 22:53                           ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-19 23:15                             ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20  0:29                               ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20  0:37                                 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20  0:56                                   ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20  1:44                                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-20  1:53                                       ` Conor Williams
2013-12-23 23:11                                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 23:44                                           ` Blake McBride
2013-12-24  0:29                                             ` David Arnold
2013-12-24  1:03                                               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-24  3:13                                                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-24  3:30                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-24  3:36                                                     ` Blake McBride
2013-12-24  3:45                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-15 18:59 ` Oleg
2013-12-15 19:13   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 20:19     ` Oleg
2013-12-15 20:43       ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 20:55         ` Oleg
2013-12-15 20:59           ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 20:47     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-16 21:26 ` Oleksandr Iakovliev
2013-12-16 21:47   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-16 21:55     ` Anthony Sorace
2013-12-16 22:08     ` Kurt H Maier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-10-24  7:57 Keith
2013-12-15 18:43 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-16  4:54 ` David Arnold
2013-12-16 19:51   ` tyrrell t
2013-12-16 20:59     ` Charles Forsyth

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