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From: Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] sources down?
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:18:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4e6962a0905221518g1310af4ar16fa1d36aa14266c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d375e920905221415u2fab4bfchc5ec2ca90da3c12b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com> wrote:
> Something that is totally unreliable, no matter how cool, is not very useful.
>
> And I think anyone that has limited time, and who wants to get
> something done, will pick "very reliable but totally shit" over "very
> unreliable but very cool" every single time.
>

While not having direct knowledge of what caused the current outage, I
can say that such outages are rarely caused by Plan 9 or the hardware
on which its running.  You see, right now, the Plan 9 machine room
(and the doom room, and much of the offices/lab space around it) are
being repurposed. There are exactly (I think exactly) two people who
turn the lights back on every time something like this happens, and
they get no accolades from the company for providing this free service
to the community -- in fact, their life would be significantly better
if they just left the lights off.  So please, keep antagonizing them
so that they shut this nice free service down -- you'll make their
lives considerably more simple and they can get back to doing real
work.

As ron said, verifying that sources is down on the list (or IRC or
whatever) and then sending a polite note to geoff and/or jmk to let
them know is fine (since they use this infrastructure as their primary
work environment, these problems often cause them more pain than us).
Anything beyond that is ridiculous.  Also  as Ron said, a far more
constructive approach is mirroring (which many already do), and an
even better idea would be for someone to code up a nice little layer
that directs your sources request to the closest available server.

          -eric



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-22 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-22 16:34 Rudolf Sykora
2009-05-22 16:51 ` ron minnich
2009-05-22 17:12   ` erik quanstrom
2009-05-22 17:23   ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-05-22 20:52     ` dave.l
2009-05-22 21:15       ` Uriel
2009-05-22 22:13         ` Noah Evans
2009-05-22 22:18         ` Eric Van Hensbergen [this message]
2009-05-22 23:06           ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-05-22 23:42             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-05-22 23:54               ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-05-23  2:28                 ` Anant Narayanan
2009-05-22 21:09     ` Uriel
2009-05-22 21:31     ` ron minnich
2009-05-22 21:43       ` Uriel
2009-05-22 22:59         ` Latchesar Ionkov
2009-05-22 21:05   ` Uriel
2009-05-22 21:13     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-05-23  3:57     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-05-23 23:59 ` J.R. Mauro
2009-05-24  0:17   ` ron minnich
2009-05-24  0:28     ` Anant Narayanan
2009-05-24  0:31       ` ron minnich
2009-05-24 23:27         ` David Leimbach
2009-05-24 23:38           ` jt
2009-05-25  0:22             ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-05-25  0:28             ` David Leimbach
2009-05-25  0:44               ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-05-25  6:05                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-05-25  8:28                   ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-05-25 10:07                   ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-05-25 10:39                   ` cinap_lenrek
2009-05-25 18:27                     ` Steve Simon
2009-05-25 19:25                       ` J.R. Mauro
2009-05-24  1:59     ` J.R. Mauro
2009-05-24  1:26   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-24 16:42 KADOTA Kyohei
2015-08-24 17:02 ` stevie
2015-08-24 18:04   ` KADOTA Kyohei
2008-11-02 18:51 Skip Tavakkolian
2008-11-02 19:04 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-11-02 21:35   ` geoff
2008-11-02 21:58     ` michael block
2008-11-02 23:46       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2006-11-29 21:55 james.cook
2006-11-29 22:20 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-11-29 22:30 ` geoff
2006-11-29 22:49   ` Charles Forsyth
2006-11-30  4:41   ` James Cook

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