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* Re: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
@ 2000-08-07 12:32 forsyth
  2000-08-07 21:54 ` Matt
  2000-08-08  8:51 ` Conway Yee
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: forsyth @ 2000-08-07 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

>>A well bound printed version of the source good would be good plus the man
>>pages printed out

>>any news on the packaged plan9 Vita Nuova are canvassing interest for on
>>their site?

it is a box with a CD and a  programmer's manual in two bound volumes:
manual pages (688 pages) and papers (416).  the content corresponds to the last
update from the bell labs site.

the CD includes the installation material (so that the normal
installation software can find it to install it), but it's also unpacked
so that you can read it directly.

>>what will be in it apart from the plan9 download?

we aren't keen to see things split off into separate `versions' as
happened with Linux (to some extent) or xBSD (to a greater extent).
bug fixes and generally useful additions that we make will be made available on
our web or ftp site or simply shipped back to 9trouble.

thus plan 9 on the CD is the same as the one available for ftp (after updates).
we're including tex.9gz, however, and several other things in a contrib
directory in wrap format.  that includes a Plan 9 Inferno
binary distribution (means no source for emu, dis or os, 
but Limbo source is included, including the source for Charon).



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* Re: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
@ 2000-08-08 14:36 Russ Cox
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2000-08-08 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

	I've been also trying to figure out the contents of the books provided
	in the $350 shrink-wrap 2nd edition.

Same as the Vita Nuova box, but the
2nd edition: a man pages book (/sys/man) and
a documents book (/sys/doc).  There's 
a large amount of overlap.

Russ




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* Re: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
@ 2000-08-08 14:17 rob pike
  2000-08-09  9:42 ` Conway Yee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: rob pike @ 2000-08-08 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> In the Peer-to-Peer edition of the Lion's book, there is a brief
> mention of a booklet that Lion wrote commenting on Plan 9 source.
> This was apparently during his last sabbatical (1989 or so).
> Presumably this implies something on the order of the 1st edition.
> Would THIS beast be available?

No.  Even for the very very early version of the system it described,
it was incomplete and somewhat confused.  John was really looking
for a new version of the Unix kernel and didn't find it. I'm not sure
if any copies exist, but if they do, I still wouldn't distribute them.
They are a poor description of the system and an unworthy legacy for
for John Lions.

-rob



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* Re: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
@ 2000-08-04 15:37 forsyth
  2000-08-04 16:14 ` Matt
  2000-08-04 22:51 ` Boyd Roberts
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: forsyth @ 2000-08-04 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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presumably it would be ``Plan 9 for Bunnies''.


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To: cse.psu.edu!9fans
Subject: Re: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:17:37 GMT
Message-ID: <ya0or985oz5k.fsf@abyss.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>

there were also infrequent mentions of a labs-authored book on plan9.
i hope it happens some day. it would be a much welcomed antidote to the
nauseating crop of "OS design in a nutshell" and "linux kernel hacking
for complete idiots" type "technical" books.

oz
---
this year's best reading: Michalewics and Fogel: How To Solve It: Modern
Huristics. includes Lin-Kernighan algorithm for TSP.

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* Re: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
@ 2000-08-03 20:20 presotto
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From: presotto @ 2000-08-03 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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There was an APE multilanguage version written but it hasn't
been kept up.  The format was something like:

#ifdef GERMAN
Das System, Plan 9, ist sehr einfach zu beschreiben.
#endif GERMAN
#ifdef ITALIAN
E' molto facile descrivere il sistema operativo Plan 9.
#endif ITALIAN
#ifdef ENGLISH
It's very easy to describe the Plan 9 OS.
#infdef ENGLISH
...

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From: "ozan s. yigit" <oz@abyss.sun.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:54:45 GMT
Message-ID: <ya0osnsmpcpn.fsf@abyss.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>

i'm surprised to find that there is a plan9 book, appears
to be only in german.

	Plan 9
	Bischof, Imeyer, Khl, Schreiner
	1999, Hanser, Munich
	ISBN 3-446-18881-9. 

[came across in http://www.inf.uos.de/axel/]

oz
---
calvin: As my artist's statement explains, my work is utterly
incomprehensible and is therefore full of deep significance.
hobbes:  You misspelled "Weltanschauung."

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* [9fans] fyi: plan9 book!
@ 2000-08-03 15:54 ozan s. yigit
  2000-08-04  9:22 ` Boyd Roberts
  2000-08-04 15:17 ` ozan s. yigit
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: ozan s. yigit @ 2000-08-03 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

i'm surprised to find that there is a plan9 book, appears
to be only in german.

	Plan 9
	Bischof, Imeyer, Khl, Schreiner
	1999, Hanser, Munich
	ISBN 3-446-18881-9. 

[came across in http://www.inf.uos.de/axel/]

oz
---
calvin: As my artist's statement explains, my work is utterly
incomprehensible and is therefore full of deep significance.
hobbes:  You misspelled "Weltanschauung."


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