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From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] an idea
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:49:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c82261344166a4b120b9e2363c8bbae9@terzarima.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404261350180.28350-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

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>>Messages to kernel bits reminds me of Mach somehow. What happened to Mach 
>>was sometimes referred to as "message death".

that was bad.  i might have chosen the 4.2bsd design document.
not messaging but a similar feel of much mechanism more complex
than that it replaces (which is all that anyone ends up using anyway
for some reason).

nevertheless, there have been good message passing systems;
it's just that (perhaps) Mach wasn't one of them.  i admit it was never one of my favourites.

still, to focus on the export aspect is possibly sensible
since that apparently has been surprisingly troublesome all round.
even there, part of the problem i think has been the usual one
of gradually working out what the specification actually was, incrementally.
eventually, one reaches a stage where it all seems quite obvious,
but by that time, so many people have jaundiced opinions about it.

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From: ron minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] an idea
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:51:33 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404261350180.28350-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 rog@vitanuova.com wrote:

> if devices speak in terms of 9p messages, you're talking about a
> stream of 9p messages.  

This part is a tiny bit worrisome for me but I didn't want to bring it up. 
Messages to kernel bits reminds me of Mach somehow. What happened to Mach 
was sometimes referred to as "message death".

ron

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-26 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-11 19:14 [9fans] german keymap Scusi
2004-04-11 19:28 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-11 20:00   ` Scusi
2004-04-11 20:03     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-11 22:10 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-11 22:39   ` Russ Cox
2004-04-11 22:55     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-12  0:01       ` Russ Cox
2004-04-12  0:06         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-12  0:22           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-12  2:42           ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:57             ` countryjoe
2004-04-12  4:02               ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:40         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:35       ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:33     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 17:43   ` rog
2004-04-21 17:44     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 17:56       ` rog
2004-04-21 18:03         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 18:41           ` rog
2004-04-21 18:42             ` Rob Pike
2004-04-21 19:16               ` rog
2004-04-21 18:43             ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 18:47             ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 18:57               ` Rob Pike
2004-04-21 18:58                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 19:20                   ` rog
2004-04-21 19:58                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 20:26                       ` rog
2004-04-21 21:26     ` [9fans] an idea rog
2004-04-26  7:57       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26  8:04         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26  8:10           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26  8:13             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 16:41         ` rog
2004-04-26 16:43           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 16:57             ` rog
2004-04-26 16:48           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-27  1:44         ` Scott Schwartz
2004-04-27  6:43           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26 15:12       ` Russ Cox
2004-04-26 15:49         ` ron minnich
2004-04-26 16:42           ` rog
2004-04-26 16:59           ` Russ Cox
2004-04-26 17:05             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 18:04               ` Philippe Anel
2004-04-26 18:16                 ` rog
2004-04-26 18:36                   ` Philippe Anel
2004-04-26 20:27                     ` rog
2004-04-27  7:44                       ` Philippe Anel
2004-04-27  8:13                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26 18:20                 ` rog
2004-04-26 18:09         ` rog
2004-04-26 18:44           ` [9fans] local 9p multiplexing Russ Cox
2004-04-26 18:54           ` [9fans] remote " Russ Cox
2004-04-26 19:44             ` rog
2004-04-28 17:37             ` [9fans] Vmware-4 and Plan 9 Ishwar Rattan
2004-04-28 17:58               ` Hugo Santos
2004-04-28 18:01               ` vic zandy
2004-04-26 18:55           ` [9fans] an idea Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 20:12             ` rog
2004-04-26 20:40               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 23:26                 ` rog
2004-04-26 19:51           ` ron minnich
2004-04-26 20:49             ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2004-04-22  1:57     ` [9fans] german keymap Michael Jeffrey

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