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From: rog@vitanuova.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] an idea
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:26:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e092aab5f661a16ed1a11a10ab95dc54@vitanuova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf74179419f235d881190a227ed556f6@terzarima.net>

> [Tauth/Rauth is] useful for only the reason it was introduced: to take
> the authentication out of the protocol proper for those file servers
> (/sys/src/fs) that don't do authentication otherwise.

i think that's a bit strong.

if i am connecting to a service through a mutually trusted third party
(a CPU server, for example) then might this kind of authentication not
be useful?

from the service's point of view, only the third party has the
capability to mix up users.  from my point of view, only the third
party can act illegitimately on my behalf.  since we both trust the
third party, surely there's no problem?

as an example, consider the inferno demo grid (*).  it's providing a
range of services through a single Styx connection.  with the current
scheme, all services have to be part of the same user domain.  however
the "spree" games service allows a different set of users.  using
Tauth/Rauth, that service could authenticate a remote user
appropriately through the same connection, rather than needing to
listen on a separate tcp port as currently.

i'm probably missing something, but that sounds reasonable
(and useful) to me.

* http://www.vitanuova.com/solutions/grid/demogrid.html, for those
interested.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-26 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-11 19:14 [9fans] german keymap Scusi
2004-04-11 19:28 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-11 20:00   ` Scusi
2004-04-11 20:03     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-11 22:10 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-11 22:39   ` Russ Cox
2004-04-11 22:55     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-12  0:01       ` Russ Cox
2004-04-12  0:06         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-12  0:22           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-12  2:42           ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:57             ` countryjoe
2004-04-12  4:02               ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:40         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:35       ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-12  2:33     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 17:43   ` rog
2004-04-21 17:44     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 17:56       ` rog
2004-04-21 18:03         ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 18:41           ` rog
2004-04-21 18:42             ` Rob Pike
2004-04-21 19:16               ` rog
2004-04-21 18:43             ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 18:47             ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 18:57               ` Rob Pike
2004-04-21 18:58                 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 19:20                   ` rog
2004-04-21 19:58                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 20:26                       ` rog
2004-04-21 21:26     ` [9fans] an idea rog
2004-04-26  7:57       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26  8:04         ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26  8:10           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26  8:13             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 16:41         ` rog
2004-04-26 16:43           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 16:57             ` rog
2004-04-26 16:48           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-27  1:44         ` Scott Schwartz
2004-04-27  6:43           ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26 15:12       ` Russ Cox
2004-04-26 15:49         ` ron minnich
2004-04-26 16:42           ` rog
2004-04-26 16:59           ` Russ Cox
2004-04-26 17:05             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 18:04               ` Philippe Anel
2004-04-26 18:16                 ` rog
2004-04-26 18:36                   ` Philippe Anel
2004-04-26 20:27                     ` rog
2004-04-27  7:44                       ` Philippe Anel
2004-04-27  8:13                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-26 18:20                 ` rog
2004-04-26 18:09         ` rog
2004-04-26 18:44           ` [9fans] local 9p multiplexing Russ Cox
2004-04-26 18:54           ` [9fans] remote " Russ Cox
2004-04-26 19:44             ` rog
2004-04-28 17:37             ` [9fans] Vmware-4 and Plan 9 Ishwar Rattan
2004-04-28 17:58               ` Hugo Santos
2004-04-28 18:01               ` vic zandy
2004-04-26 18:55           ` [9fans] an idea Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 20:12             ` rog
2004-04-26 20:40               ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-26 23:26                 ` rog [this message]
2004-04-26 19:51           ` ron minnich
2004-04-26 20:49             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-22  1:57     ` [9fans] german keymap Michael Jeffrey

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