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* [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care?
@ 2021-01-04  3:32 ori
  2021-06-16 20:23 ` unobe
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: ori @ 2021-01-04  3:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Our compilers will sometimes produce a warning about
a non-interruptible temporary:

        #include <u.h>
        #include <libc.h>
        void
        f(vlong a)
        {
                vlong x, y, z;
                x = y = z = a;
        }

        cpu% 5c -w test.c
        warning: /fd/0:7 non-interruptable temporary
        warning: /fd/0:7 non-interruptable temporary

I know this means that the intermediate values
cannot be assigned atomically, but I don't see
why this rates a warning. From what I understand,
the uninterruptability of the temporaries should
be unobservable as long as our note handlers
save and restore registers correctly.

The only case I can think of is that a note
handler may see "tearing" of a register, but
that doesn't require a non-interruptible
temporary -- this kind of code will suffice:

        vlong x;
        int
        use_x(){ return x; }
        void
        main(void)
        {
                atnotify(use_x, 1);
                while(1)
                        x++;
        }

Why do we warn about non-interruptible
temporaries? What issues am I missing?

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* Re: [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care?
  2021-01-04  3:32 [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care? ori
@ 2021-06-16 20:23 ` unobe
  2021-06-16 20:28   ` ori
                     ` (2 more replies)
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From: unobe @ 2021-06-16 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Quoth ori@eigenstate.org:
> Our compilers will sometimes produce a warning about
> a non-interruptible temporary:
> ...
> Why do we warn about non-interruptible
> temporaries? What issues am I missing?

Silence to this question means no one knows, right?


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* Re: [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care?
  2021-06-16 20:23 ` unobe
@ 2021-06-16 20:28   ` ori
  2021-06-17 19:32     ` Charles Forsyth
  2021-06-16 21:10   ` Anthony Martin
  2021-06-20 14:53   ` [9fans] help Spock via 9fans
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: ori @ 2021-06-16 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Quoth unobe@cpan.org:
> Quoth ori@eigenstate.org:
> > Our compilers will sometimes produce a warning about
> > a non-interruptible temporary:
> > ...
> > Why do we warn about non-interruptible
> > temporaries? What issues am I missing?
> 
> Silence to this question means no one knows, right?
> 

I pinged Charles off list and got a response -- it means
we're falling into the rathole; in other words, we're
accessing a global variable.

The right thing to do (IMO) is make the compiler allocate
on the stack, and then the warning would be unneded.


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* Re: [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care?
  2021-06-16 20:23 ` unobe
  2021-06-16 20:28   ` ori
@ 2021-06-16 21:10   ` Anthony Martin
  2021-06-16 21:28     ` unobe
  2021-06-20 14:53   ` [9fans] help Spock via 9fans
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Martin @ 2021-06-16 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

unobe@cpan.org once said:
> Quoth ori@eigenstate.org:
> > Why do we warn about non-interruptible
> > temporaries? What issues am I missing?
>
> Silence to this question means no one knows, right?

There is nothing new under the sun.

        Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:10:20 -0400
        From: Russ Cox <russcox@gmail.com>
        To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
        Subject: Re: [9fans] 'non-interruptable temporary' warning
        Message-ID: <ee9e417a0504041110596cc301@mail.gmail.com>

        the compiler is warning you against its own laziness.
        in this case it is using a global temporary to hold the
        intermediate value of (lba = f->lba) while converting
        it to uchar.  if you had another thread running through
        this code it would use the same temporary.

        [...]

Cheers,
  Anthony

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* Re: [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care?
  2021-06-16 21:10   ` Anthony Martin
@ 2021-06-16 21:28     ` unobe
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: unobe @ 2021-06-16 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Quoth Anthony Martin <ality@pbrane.org>:
> There is nothing new under the sun.
> 
>         Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:10:20 -0400
>         From: Russ Cox <russcox@gmail.com>
>         To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>         Subject: Re: [9fans] 'non-interruptable temporary' warning
>         Message-ID: <ee9e417a0504041110596cc301@mail.gmail.com>
> 
>         the compiler is warning you against its own laziness.
>         in this case it is using a global temporary to hold the
>         intermediate value of (lba = f->lba) while converting
>         it to uchar.  if you had another thread running through
>         this code it would use the same temporary.
> 
>         [...]
> 
> Cheers,
>   Anthony

Thanks for the quotation, Anthony.  I had used
9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans to search 'non-interruptible', not
'non-interruptable': I should have searched the actual error.


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* Re: [9fans] non-interruptible temporary: why do we care?
  2021-06-16 20:28   ` ori
@ 2021-06-17 19:32     ` Charles Forsyth
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Charles Forsyth @ 2021-06-17 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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yes, I'm not sure why it doesn't do that, but probably if I try to add that
code I'll soon find out!

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 9:29 PM <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:

> Quoth unobe@cpan.org:
> > Quoth ori@eigenstate.org:
> > > Our compilers will sometimes produce a warning about
> > > a non-interruptible temporary:
> > > ...
> > > Why do we warn about non-interruptible
> > > temporaries? What issues am I missing?
> >
> > Silence to this question means no one knows, right?
> >
> 
> I pinged Charles off list and got a response -- it means
> we're falling into the rathole; in other words, we're
> accessing a global variable.
> 
> The right thing to do (IMO) is make the compiler allocate
> on the stack, and then the warning would be unneded.
> 

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* [9fans] help
  2021-06-16 20:23 ` unobe
  2021-06-16 20:28   ` ori
  2021-06-16 21:10   ` Anthony Martin
@ 2021-06-20 14:53   ` Spock via 9fans
  2021-06-20 15:32     ` Marshall Conover
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Spock via 9fans @ 2021-06-20 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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* Re: [9fans] help
  2021-06-20 14:53   ` [9fans] help Spock via 9fans
@ 2021-06-20 15:32     ` Marshall Conover
  2021-06-20 18:46       ` U Cirello
  2021-06-20 21:14       ` Ethan Gardener
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Marshall Conover @ 2021-06-20 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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The most recent humpback whale sighting I could find is this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/125480446/humpback-whales-put-on-spectacular-show-in-sounds

Live long and prosper,

Marshall

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 10:55 AM Spock via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:



-- 
Have a good day,

Marshall Conover

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* Re: [9fans] help
  2021-06-20 15:32     ` Marshall Conover
@ 2021-06-20 18:46       ` U Cirello
  2021-06-20 21:14       ` Ethan Gardener
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: U Cirello @ 2021-06-20 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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that's why I don't unsub 9fans

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 8:33 AM Marshall Conover <marzhall.o@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The most recent humpback whale sighting I could find is this:
> https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/125480446/humpback-whales-put-on-spectacular-show-in-sounds
>
> Live long and prosper,
>
> Marshall
>
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 10:55 AM Spock via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> --
> Have a good day,
>
> Marshall Conover
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* Re: [9fans] help
  2021-06-20 15:32     ` Marshall Conover
  2021-06-20 18:46       ` U Cirello
@ 2021-06-20 21:14       ` Ethan Gardener
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ethan Gardener @ 2021-06-20 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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But where are the nuklear wessels?

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Marshall Conover wrote:
> The most recent humpback whale sighting I could find is this: https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/125480446/humpback-whales-put-on-spectacular-show-in-sounds
> 
> Live long and prosper,
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 10:55 AM Spock via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> -- 
> Have a good day,
> 
> Marshall Conover
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* [9fans] HELP
@ 2003-08-22 14:18 Matthew Lukaszewicz
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From: Matthew Lukaszewicz @ 2003-08-22 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Please unsubscribe me from this list as I am no longer using plan 9.

Thank you,
Matthew

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> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:15:46 +0200
> From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
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> 
> >>
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> 
> 	From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 	Date: Fri Aug 22 07:26:49 SAT 2003
> 	To: Maxieakfx@home.se
> 	Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver
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> From: Kenji Arisawa <arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp>
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > If you can recompile fossil somewhere, then just take that assert out.
> 
> Thanks jim. I tried to recompile fossil, but...
> 
> hera# mk
> 8c -FVw fossil.c
> 8c -FVw 9p.c
> 8c -FVw 9auth.c
> 8c -FVw 9dir.c
> 8c -FVw 9excl.c
> 8c -FVw 9fid.c
> 8c -FVw 9fsys.c
> 9fsys.c:359 not enough function arguments: snapGetTimes
> 9fsys.c:393 not enough function arguments: snapSetTimes
> 9fsys.c:394 not enough function arguments: snapGetTimes
> 9fsys.c:468 argument prototype mismatch "IND STRUCT Fs" for "IND STRUCT 
> File": fileClri
> mk: 8c -FVw 9fsys.c  : exit status=rc 881: 8c 883: error
> hera#
> 
> I did
> 	replica/pull
> yesterday.
> 
> hera# ls -l
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4129 Jun 16 04:02 9.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3394 Apr 17 03:49 9auth.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1995 Jan  8  2003 9dir.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1887 Jan  8  2003 9excl.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  5521 Feb 19  2003 9fid.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 29755 Jun 16 04:02 9fsys.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  2865 Jan  8  2003 9lstn.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 21416 Jun 16 04:02 9p.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1563 Jan  8  2003 9ping.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 15245 Apr 17 03:49 9proc.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3589 Jun 16 04:02 9srv.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 17240 Jun 16 04:02 9user.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1624 Jan  8  2003 Ccli.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  7246 Apr 17 03:49 Ccmd.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  6620 Jun 16 04:02 Ccons.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   591 Jan  8  2003 Clog.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  9112 Feb 19  2003 archive.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   449 Jan  8  2003 build
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys   561 Jan  8  2003 buildsh
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  6754 Jan  8  2003 bwatch.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 42854 Jun 16 04:02 cache.c
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys  1407 Jun 16 04:02 conf.rc
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  7855 Apr 17 03:49 dat.h
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys   413 Jan  8  2003 deadlock
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  5809 Jun 16 04:02 disk.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1340 Jan  8  2003 dump.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   997 Feb 19  2003 epoch.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1367 Jan  8  2003 error.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   744 Jan  8  2003 error.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 27846 Jun 16 04:02 file.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 14275 Mar 28 22:49 flchk.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 10368 Mar 28 22:49 flfmt.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   210 Jan  8  2003 flproto
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3039 Jun 16 04:02 fns.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3965 Jan  8  2003 fossil-acid
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  2113 Jun 16 04:02 fossil.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 21075 Jun 16 04:02 fs.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1398 Jun 16 04:02 fs.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1400 Jun 16 04:03 history
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4073 Jan  8  2003 invariants
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1842 Jun 16 04:02 mkfile
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   329 Jan  8  2003 nobwatch.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4683 Jan  8  2003 pack.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1091 Jan  8  2003 periodic.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 18778 Jun 16 04:02 source.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4178 Jan  8  2003 srcload.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   155 Jan  8  2003 stdinc.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   280 Jan  8  2003 trunc.c
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys   286 Jan  8  2003 unpack
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 12497 Jan  8  2003 vac.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  2782 Jan  8  2003 vac.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 19708 Jan  8  2003 view.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   963 Jan  8  2003 walk.c
> hera#
> 
> What wrong? And what should I do?
> 
> Kenji Arisawa
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> >
> >
> >Doesn't seem like good news to me:
> >
> Sure, it's a virus. What am I going to do, sulk about it?
> I just found it interesting that someone else from my area
> subscribed to 9fans ;-)
> 
> Don
> 
> http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_
> 
> 
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> Organization: Proxima Research & Development
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:22:03 +0200
> From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > Sure, it's a virus. What am I going to do, sulk about it?
> > I just found it interesting that someone else from my area
> > subscribed to 9fans ;-)
> 
> ...  and mail to it bounces.  No, you certainly shouldn't sulk about
> it, I just thought it was ironic.  The whole issue around this
> particular virus is quite confusing anyway.
> 
> ++L
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:43:25 -0400
> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [9fans] duplicate uid in fossil
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> i've updated sources with what is in our /sys/src (i checked it
> compiled first). try again.
> --upas-fxflzefhdxsdkcdqlysmqffwqf
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> Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Fri Aug 22 01:37:20 EDT 2003
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> Hello,
> 
> > If you can recompile fossil somewhere, then just take that assert out.
> 
> Thanks jim. I tried to recompile fossil, but...
> 
> hera# mk
> 8c -FVw fossil.c
> 8c -FVw 9p.c
> 8c -FVw 9auth.c
> 8c -FVw 9dir.c
> 8c -FVw 9excl.c
> 8c -FVw 9fid.c
> 8c -FVw 9fsys.c
> 9fsys.c:359 not enough function arguments: snapGetTimes
> 9fsys.c:393 not enough function arguments: snapSetTimes
> 9fsys.c:394 not enough function arguments: snapGetTimes
> 9fsys.c:468 argument prototype mismatch "IND STRUCT Fs" for "IND STRUCT 
> File": fileClri
> mk: 8c -FVw 9fsys.c  : exit status=rc 881: 8c 883: error
> hera#
> 
> I did
> 	replica/pull
> yesterday.
> 
> hera# ls -l
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4129 Jun 16 04:02 9.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3394 Apr 17 03:49 9auth.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1995 Jan  8  2003 9dir.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1887 Jan  8  2003 9excl.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  5521 Feb 19  2003 9fid.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 29755 Jun 16 04:02 9fsys.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  2865 Jan  8  2003 9lstn.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 21416 Jun 16 04:02 9p.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1563 Jan  8  2003 9ping.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 15245 Apr 17 03:49 9proc.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3589 Jun 16 04:02 9srv.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 17240 Jun 16 04:02 9user.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1624 Jan  8  2003 Ccli.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  7246 Apr 17 03:49 Ccmd.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  6620 Jun 16 04:02 Ccons.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   591 Jan  8  2003 Clog.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  9112 Feb 19  2003 archive.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   449 Jan  8  2003 build
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys   561 Jan  8  2003 buildsh
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  6754 Jan  8  2003 bwatch.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 42854 Jun 16 04:02 cache.c
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys  1407 Jun 16 04:02 conf.rc
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  7855 Apr 17 03:49 dat.h
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys   413 Jan  8  2003 deadlock
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  5809 Jun 16 04:02 disk.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1340 Jan  8  2003 dump.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   997 Feb 19  2003 epoch.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1367 Jan  8  2003 error.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   744 Jan  8  2003 error.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 27846 Jun 16 04:02 file.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 14275 Mar 28 22:49 flchk.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 10368 Mar 28 22:49 flfmt.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   210 Jan  8  2003 flproto
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3039 Jun 16 04:02 fns.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  3965 Jan  8  2003 fossil-acid
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  2113 Jun 16 04:02 fossil.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 21075 Jun 16 04:02 fs.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1398 Jun 16 04:02 fs.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1400 Jun 16 04:03 history
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4073 Jan  8  2003 invariants
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1842 Jun 16 04:02 mkfile
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   329 Jan  8  2003 nobwatch.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4683 Jan  8  2003 pack.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  1091 Jan  8  2003 periodic.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 18778 Jun 16 04:02 source.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  4178 Jan  8  2003 srcload.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   155 Jan  8  2003 stdinc.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   280 Jan  8  2003 trunc.c
> --rwxrwxr-x M 5531 bootes sys   286 Jan  8  2003 unpack
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 12497 Jan  8  2003 vac.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys  2782 Jan  8  2003 vac.h
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys 19708 Jan  8  2003 view.c
> --rw-rw-r-- M 5531 bootes sys   963 Jan  8  2003 walk.c
> hera#
> 
> What wrong? And what should I do?
> 
> Kenji Arisawa
> 
> --upas-fxflzefhdxsdkcdqlysmqffwqf--
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:46:25 +0900
> Subject: Re: [9fans] duplicate uid in fossil
> From: Kenji Arisawa <arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp>
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I said:
> hera# mk
> 8c -FVw fossil.c
> ...
> mk: 8c -FVw 9fsys.c  : exit status=rc 881: 8c 883: error
> hera#
> 
> However this was my mistake.
> Sorry.
> 
> I will soon examine new fossil
> 
> Kenji Arisawa
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 7
> From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
> To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:55:48 +0200
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> i got tons of the things, but you never open/detache them.
> 
> we need a hunter/killer team.
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 8
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:38:50 +0900
> From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > i got tons of the things, but you never open/detache them.
> > 
> > we need a hunter/killer team.
> 
> probably, Scott is in vacation. ☺
> 
> Kenji
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 9
> From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph)
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: 22 Aug 2003 01:15:36 -0500
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> >>>>> "northern" == northern snowfall <dbailey27@ameritech.net> writes:
> northern> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Doesn't seem like good news to me:
> >> 
> northern> Sure, it's a virus. What am I going to do, sulk about it?  I
> northern> just found it interesting that someone else from my area
> northern> subscribed to 9fans ;-)
> northern> 
> northern> Don
> northern> 
> northern> http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_
> 
> They are not necessarily subscribed; the worm just managed to find
> the 9fans address somewhere on the computer, possibly in a cached web
> page, so it could put that in the From: part of the emails it sent
> out.
> 
> --Rob
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:16:46 -0500
> From: northern snowfall <dbailey27@ameritech.net>
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> >
> >
> >They are not necessarily subscribed; the worm just managed to find
> >the 9fans address somewhere on the computer, possibly in a cached web
> >page, so it could put that in the From: part of the emails it sent
> >out.
> >
> Uh oh, I didn't know this about the worms....
> In that case, it might be friends of mine...
> 
> Don
> 
> http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 11
> From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
> To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:23:34 +0200
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> Final Solution  -- Pere Ubu
> 
> The girls won’t touch me cause I got a misdirection
> An living at night isn’t’ helping my complexion
> The signs all say it’s a social infection
> And a little bit of fun’s never been an insurrection
> My mom threw me out till I get some pants that fit
> She just won’t approve of my strange kind of wit
> I get so excited I always gotta lose it
> Then they send me off and make me take the cure
> But I don’t need a cure
> D-don’t need a cure
> D-don’t need a cure
> I need a final solution
> Buy me a ticket to a sonic reduction
> Guitars gonna sound like a nuclear destruction
> It’s seems I’m the victim of natural selection
> Meet me on the other side--no direction!
> Cause I don’t need a cure
> D-don’t need a cure
> D-don’t need a cure
> I need a final solution
> 
> 
> http://www.secraterri.com/final.html
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:27:09 +0100
> From: Martin Althoff <martin.althoff@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> I have been getting loads of those "undeliverables" as well. Really
> seems that someone is using 9fans members not only as spam destination
> but also as source.
> 
> Yesterday I also got swamped with around 20 virus infected mails with
> .scr and similar attachments from all kinds of (fake) addresses. I use
> Bat! Mail which never executes anything (it can't) and virus scan. So
> I am safe, but it gets rather anoying.
> 
> Could it not be possible to block a lot more, eg simply prevent
> attachments? I know some members, when replying, have the original
> message as attachments, but still... 100k of wasted bandwidth with
> viruses is unneeded....
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> <<<<<================>>>>>
> 
> Friday, August 22, 2003, 7:37:59 AM, you wrote:
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>Doesn't seem like good news to me:
> >>
> > Sure, it's a virus. What am I going to do, sulk about it?
> > I just found it interesting that someone else from my area
> > subscribed to 9fans ;-)
> 
> > Don
> 
> > http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 13
> From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
> To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:35:12 +0200
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> no, this is not the final solution.
> 
> vix had it down and we can take these fools out with simple tech solutions.
> 
> laws are what they do when they can think of nothing better to do.
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 14
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Organization: Proxima Research & Development
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:27:41 +0200
> From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
> Subject: [9fans] Mouse misdemeanor
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> I'm sure somebody here will spot the problem a lot faster than I would
> by searching through the sources: I frequently find the mouse button 3
> (right-button, to be precise) getting transformed into button 2
> (middle-button).  I can almost invariably cause it by running acid and
> issuing a stk() command in acme win, I have not seen anything else
> quite as predictable, but there does not seem to be much
> discrimination.  For some mysterious reason, running wloc (in the same
> window) resets the mouse to sensible behaviour, but I see from some
> experimentation that just switching windows in acme has at least a
> temporary positive effect.
> 
> The mouse I'm using right now is a PS/2 IntelliMouse, the same as I
> have at the office.  I can't be definitive about it happening when I
> was using a serial logitech, but I'm almost sure it did then, too.
> 
> Any clue how to fix it or at least identify the source of the problem?
> 
> ++L
> 
> PS: In passing, I use my mouse with my left hand for some hand-eye
> coordination superstition (I lost my right eye in childhood, so I'm
> sure this is rubbish, but apparently I'm a re-trained left hander) and
> only recently discovered that it is almost impossible to left-middle
> chord on an intellimouse with one's right hand, whereas it is
> perfectly easy with the left.  It surprised me, so perhaps someone
> else may benefit from this discovery.
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 15
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Organization: Proxima Research & Development
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:33:34 +0200
> From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > vix had it down and we can take these fools out with simple tech solutions.
> > 
> Why can't you be a bit more specific?  You don't know how many here
> may be willing to take what sounds like draconian measures.
> 
> ++L
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 16
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Organization: Proxima Research & Development
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:33:42 +0200
> From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > vix had it down and we can take these fools out with simple tech solutions.
> > 
> Why can't you be a bit more specific?  You don't know how many here
> may be willing to take what sounds like draconian measures.
> 
> ++L
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 17
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Organization: Proxima Research & Development
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:35:58 +0200
> From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> Oops, sorry about the double post!
> 
> ++L
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 18
> From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
> To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:04:35 +0200
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > Why can't you be a bit more specific?  You don't know how many here
> > may be willing to take what sounds like draconian measures.
> 
> i know how to do it, but i have bad carpal tunnel.  anyway, the basic
> idea is to parse the Received: headers and bitch to every site;
> backpressure works.  you could even plumb it out of faces; punch
> the message up and say "kill 'em".
> 
> one shot, one kill.
> 
> jesus, have a lot of Yes.
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:10:19 +0100
> From: Martin Althoff <martin.althoff@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: "lucio@proxima.alt.za" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re[4]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > Why can't you be a bit more specific?  You don't know how many here
> > may be willing to take what sounds like draconian measures.
> 
> ... just a bit more filtering would be nice :))
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 20
> From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
> To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Returned mail: Service unavailable
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:08:30 +0200
> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> 
> > > vix had it down and we can take these fools out with simple tech solutions.
> > > 
> > Why can't you be a bit more specific?
> 
> he was using EBGP, but that's not really a solution.
> 
> inventive, yes.
> 
> seems i have the little known Midnight Oil _Species Deceases_.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> End of 9fans Digest
> 



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* [9fans] help
@ 2000-07-03 11:54 Guilherme Bedin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Guilherme Bedin @ 2000-07-03 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans


how I subscribe ???


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* [9fans] help
@ 1999-07-09  1:48 Wang
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Wang @ 1999-07-09  1:48 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi:
    How can I subscribe this mail list?

Wang Qi





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