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From: Geoff Collyer <geoff@collyer.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:02:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ecc443f7f7130dd9a15afbf02e7899a8@collyer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030711053303.2340e439.ggm@apnic.net>

Yeah, SMTP is a misnomer.  It makes me wonder how complex MTP was.  I
think a lot of the complexity is due to typical Internet
micromanagement of a baroque syntax.

I designed a replacement, the Really Simple Mail Transfer Protocol,
and did an implementation or two in Limbo.  The spec. is 13 pages,
including index, rather than the 68 pages of RFC 821.  Lucent has had
a patent application in the works for years (4 or 5, I think), so I'm
not sure how much I can say about it, except to point interested
parties at (this is one line):

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=collyer.IN.&OS=IN/collyer&RS=IN/collyer

The description therein is a legalistic version of a lawyer's
understanding of my paper, so it's likely pretty difficult to follow,
alas.

Of course, as I suggest at the end of the RSMTP paper, protocols like
SMTP and RSMTP could be replaced by 9P2000 if it were used more
universally.  (Mount the recipient's synthetic inbox and write to it.
Done.)  The last thing the Internet needs is more protocols, but bad
ones like SMTP ought to be replaced.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-10 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-07 12:05 [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image pac
2003-07-07 13:39 ` [9fans] pop3 before smtp Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  0:49   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-09  1:16     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  1:24       ` Dan Cross
2003-07-09  1:58         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  1:36       ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-09  1:54         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  5:05           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  7:21             ` Fco.J.Ballesteros, nemo
2003-07-09  7:39               ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  7:56                 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-09  8:29                   ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  9:07                     ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-10  4:02             ` Russ Cox
2003-07-10 19:18               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 19:24                 ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:38                   ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:49                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:09                       ` William Ahern
2003-07-10 21:21                         ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-10 21:50                           ` Dan Cross
2003-07-10 21:56                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11  0:02                             ` David Presotto
2003-07-11  0:09                               ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11  0:23                                 ` David Presotto
2003-07-11 15:03                                 ` William Ahern
2003-07-11 15:16                                   ` Martin Harriss
2003-07-11 15:59                                     ` William Ahern
2003-07-12  0:51                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2003-07-11 10:44                               ` matt
2003-07-11 14:46                             ` William Ahern
2003-07-12 23:58                               ` C H Forsyth
2003-07-11  8:52                           ` bs
2003-07-11  9:18                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 19:51                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 20:01                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:20                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 19:33                 ` George Michaelson
2003-07-10 19:44                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 22:02                   ` Geoff Collyer [this message]
2003-07-10 22:14                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:11                       ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 23:26                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:38                           ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 23:48                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:56                               ` David Presotto
2003-07-11  0:03                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 22:23                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-07 16:58 ` [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image David Presotto
2003-07-07 20:46   ` boyd, rounin

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