* [9fans] request for examples
@ 2007-04-03 15:15 David Leimbach
2007-04-03 15:23 ` ron minnich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2007-04-03 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
I'd like to help out with this...
I think the wiki could do with more examples around setting up NFS
clients/servers, aquarela usage, dedicated mail servers.
Does anyone think this is a bad idea? I mean, I know we're supposed
to be able to read the man pages and just be successful, but I still
have a lot of trial and error, and often no success (like with
aquarela).
Does having tons of shortcuts in the wiki discourage people from
reading the man pages, and is that a bad thing, or does it just
comfort new users with HOWTO's to get started on Plan 9?
Just a thought. Seems like more examples would be a good thing.
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 15:15 [9fans] request for examples David Leimbach
@ 2007-04-03 15:23 ` ron minnich
2007-04-03 15:29 ` David Leimbach
2007-04-03 16:40 ` Steve Simon
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: ron minnich @ 2007-04-03 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 4/3/07, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
\
>
> Does having tons of shortcuts in the wiki discourage people from
> reading the man pages, and is that a bad thing, or does it just
> comfort new users with HOWTO's to get started on Plan 9?
no. I still don't have TLS set up for imap, for example. It just won't work.
>
> Just a thought. Seems like more examples would be a good thing.
>
as long as at least two people can verify that the examples work.
ron
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 15:23 ` ron minnich
@ 2007-04-03 15:29 ` David Leimbach
2007-04-03 16:40 ` Steve Simon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2007-04-03 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 4/3/07, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/3/07, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> \
> >
> > Does having tons of shortcuts in the wiki discourage people from
> > reading the man pages, and is that a bad thing, or does it just
> > comfort new users with HOWTO's to get started on Plan 9?
>
> no. I still don't have TLS set up for imap, for example. It just won't work.
>
> >
> > Just a thought. Seems like more examples would be a good thing.
> >
> as long as at least two people can verify that the examples work.
>
> ron
>
Ok that sounds good. Maybe a work in progress page and then promote
things to the verified to work page :-)
Dave
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 15:23 ` ron minnich
2007-04-03 15:29 ` David Leimbach
@ 2007-04-03 16:40 ` Steve Simon
2007-04-03 16:48 ` erik quanstrom
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steve Simon @ 2007-04-03 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> no. I still don't have TLS set up for imap, for example. It just won't work.
Strange, it just works for me (sorry). I did have problems initially
as the server I connect to (MS Exchange) wanted to use a subtly different
auth scheme but I got a patch in last year to add that to upas/fs.
for what its worth I run this script on boot to pick up my email.
#!/bin/rc
rfork en
upas/fs -f /imaps/mail.mycompany.com/myusername
cd /mail/fs/mbox
while(){
for (f in `{ls | grep '^[0-9]+' | sort -n}){
upas/send -r inject!steve < $f/raw
rm $f
}
sleep 60
}
-Steve
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 16:40 ` Steve Simon
@ 2007-04-03 16:48 ` erik quanstrom
2007-04-03 16:52 ` Russ Cox
2007-04-03 17:39 ` Steve Simon
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2007-04-03 16:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
i don't see "inject" in my /mail/lib or /sys/src/cmd/upas/*/*.
is this part of your /mail/lib/rewrite?
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 16:48 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2007-04-03 16:52 ` Russ Cox
2007-04-03 17:39 ` Steve Simon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2007-04-03 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 4/3/07, erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
> i don't see "inject" in my /mail/lib or /sys/src/cmd/upas/*/*.
> is this part of your /mail/lib/rewrite?
it could just be the name of a machine.
russ
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 16:48 ` erik quanstrom
2007-04-03 16:52 ` Russ Cox
@ 2007-04-03 17:39 ` Steve Simon
2007-04-13 14:04 ` David Leimbach
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steve Simon @ 2007-04-03 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> i don't see "inject" in my /mail/lib or /sys/src/cmd/upas/*/*.
> is this part of your /mail/lib/rewrite?
Yep, I am the only user of my machine so most people
I send email to get adomain added and so forwareded on
to exchange.
# deliver injected mail locally
inject!(.*) >> /mail/box/\1/mbox
# my email
local!steve >> /mail/box/steve/mbox
# append the local domain to addresses without a domain
local!(.*) alias \1@mycompany.com
-Steve
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-03 17:39 ` Steve Simon
@ 2007-04-13 14:04 ` David Leimbach
2007-04-14 23:51 ` Steve Simon
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2007-04-13 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 4/3/07, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
> > i don't see "inject" in my /mail/lib or /sys/src/cmd/upas/*/*.
> > is this part of your /mail/lib/rewrite?
>
> Yep, I am the only user of my machine so most people
> I send email to get adomain added and so forwareded on
> to exchange.
>
> # deliver injected mail locally
> inject!(.*) >> /mail/box/\1/mbox
>
> # my email
> local!steve >> /mail/box/steve/mbox
>
> # append the local domain to addresses without a domain
> local!(.*) alias \1@mycompany.com
>
> -Steve
>
I'm almost 100% moved into my new house, and hope to get a start on
this wiki promise sometime either this evening, or this weekend. The
wife and I have had a bunch of house guests and other distractions,
but I'm hoping to start making some progress.
Sorry for the delay.
I'll start by migrating my Parallels configuration to the wiki, though
I think the ability to include screenshots in the website I've got on
mordor (which I still can't seem to log in to, having apparently more
than one secstore with an invalid password, or I have a bad
configuration for login), seem useful.
Are images in Plan 9's wiki desireable? I realize that seeing it in
Acme and being able to edit it there is a big advantage, but then that
makes me think, can acme be extended to display images? Or would that
just be a terrible idea? :-)
Dave
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-13 14:04 ` David Leimbach
@ 2007-04-14 23:51 ` Steve Simon
2007-04-15 0:03 ` Federico Benavento
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steve Simon @ 2007-04-14 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Are images in Plan 9's wiki desireable?
I would put the images in your contrib dir,
you can then link directly to them from he wiki page via:
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/...
> ... can acme be extended to display images?
fgb has this in progress I believe.
-Steve
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-14 23:51 ` Steve Simon
@ 2007-04-15 0:03 ` Federico Benavento
2007-04-16 15:07 ` David Leimbach
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Federico Benavento @ 2007-04-15 0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> > ... can acme be extended to display images?
>
> fgb has this in progress I believe.
so far I have just a hack that lets you run draw(2) apps
in it, but it's going to need more than a hack to have
a functional acme with images...
--
Federico G. Benavento
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* Re: [9fans] request for examples
2007-04-15 0:03 ` Federico Benavento
@ 2007-04-16 15:07 ` David Leimbach
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2007-04-16 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 4/14/07, Federico Benavento <benavento@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ... can acme be extended to display images?
> >
> > fgb has this in progress I believe.
>
> so far I have just a hack that lets you run draw(2) apps
> in it, but it's going to need more than a hack to have
> a functional acme with images...
>
> --
> Federico G. Benavento
>
Great... I think I'm going to be able to get started in on it in
earnest tonight then, I'm not sure I have a contrib directory or how
to go about getting one :-). The wife's got classes to attend :-)
Dave
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