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From: BurnZeZ@feline.systems
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] syslog(2) change
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:41:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f978b238a980348b347e926d3620477@utsuho.znet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5b700121babb21f8e721550f9815085f@ghost.attlocal.net>

On Wed Feb 10 15:28:40 EST 2016, sl@stanleylieber.com wrote:
> >> This seems like the obvious question upon which all of this hinges. This is
> >> almost certainly a rare case.
> > 
> > I didn't consider this a strange thing to do.  Running a bunch of
> > nodes from a single install means only maintaining one filesystem.
> > Nonetheless, netbooted terminals in a different timezone will have
> > the same issue.
> 
> Systems in different timezones sharing an fs is precisely the "rare
> case" I was describing. Can you guess why this case is rare?
> 
> sl
> 

I assume latency is the primary reason not to.  If you're running a
bunch of scripts that are accessing files all over the place, you
might have a problem.  One useful example I can think of would be
having some remote machine that is primarily used as a remote gateway.

You're right though, I can see why someone might avoid doing this.



On Wed Feb 10 16:08:12 EST 2016, khm@sciops.net wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Julius Schmidt wrote:
> > I do much prefer something like yyyy-mm-dd... over burnzez' suggestion.
> 
> If you're going to put timezones in the logfiles, you pretty much have
> to use ISO-8601 date formats, and resolve to stick to numeric offsets.
> As we're discovering on irc, trying to convert from abbreviations to
> meaningul data is a fool's game.  Switching to YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS+HH:MM
> is the only sane option.
> 
> khm
> 

cirno Feb  9 20:38:55 Hung up on 8.8.8.8; claimed to be fbi.gov
cirno 1455068335 Hung up on 8.8.8.8; claimed to be fbi.gov
cirno 2016-02-09T20:38:55-0500 Hung up on 8.8.8.8; claimed to be fbi.gov

I still prefer the terseness of seconds since the epoch, but ISO-8601 is
at least machine readable.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-10 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-10  5:03 BurnZeZ
2016-02-10  5:08 ` [9front] " Devon H. O'Dell
2016-02-10  5:41 ` arisawa
2016-02-10 12:14   ` BurnZeZ
2016-02-10 13:52     ` arisawa
2016-02-10 16:15       ` stanley lieber
2016-02-10 20:25         ` BurnZeZ
2016-02-10 20:28           ` sl
2016-02-10 20:57             ` Julius Schmidt
2016-02-10 21:06               ` sl
2016-02-10 21:08               ` Kurt H Maier
2016-02-10 21:22                 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2016-02-10 21:24                   ` sl
2016-02-10 22:41             ` BurnZeZ [this message]
2016-02-11  3:02               ` arisawa
2016-02-10 16:06     ` Kurt H Maier
2016-02-10 20:24       ` BurnZeZ

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