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From: Eray Ozkural <exa@kablonet.com.tr>
To: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
Cc: David Brown <caml-list@davidb.org>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Easy solution in OCaml?
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 19:57:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305031957.27055.exa@kablonet.com.tr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EB3D43C.3030701@ozemail.com.au>

On Saturday 03 May 2003 17:37, John Max Skaller wrote:
> Eray Ozkural wrote:
> > On Monday 28 April 2003 17:22, David Brown wrote:
> >>To me, the core feature of functional programming are first class
> >>closures.  Everything else just makes it more convenient.
> >
> > Well said. I would also like to say here that I fail to see what
> > distinguishes the core of ocaml and haskell so much from a semantics
> > point of view!!!!!!!
>
> Laziness.

I know all the fluff about laziness. I wrote code that used so-called 
"infinite graphs" and another code that did have higher order functions which 
used monadic parameters and a lot of sequencing of monadic code if you want 
to verify that. But I, as a programmer not as a lambda-calculus addict, see 
laziness as an "evaluation strategy" not as a deep semantic difference. What 
I meant is whether this difference is exaggerated. I think it is, and I also 
think that monadic I/O is just a pretty (and burdensome) way of writing 
sequential code. Something that isn't wildly interesting from a semantic POV.

Here is what I'm trying to really mean: I can write a compiler for a subset of 
ocaml that uses only lazy evaluation. [*] Right or wrong?

[*] For any pure functional language I should be able to do that. Just like 
Haskell compilers I don't really have to care whether the resulting code will 
work reasonably or not.

-- 
Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-03 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20030427164326.34082.qmail@web41211.mail.yahoo.com>
2003-04-28 12:05 ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-28 13:54   ` Noel Welsh
2003-04-28 14:22   ` David Brown
2003-04-28 14:38     ` sebastien FURIC
2003-04-28 18:14     ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-03 14:37       ` John Max Skaller
2003-05-03 16:57         ` Eray Ozkural [this message]
2003-04-28 15:27 isaac gouy
2003-04-28 16:38 ` brogoff
2003-04-28 17:13   ` isaac gouy
2003-04-28 17:48   ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-28 17:50     ` brogoff
2003-04-28 18:31       ` Eray Ozkural
2003-04-29  6:46       ` Siegfried Gonzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-25  6:05 Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-25  8:19 ` sebastien FURIC
2003-04-25 15:46 ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-25 16:34   ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-26 13:45   ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-26 21:51     ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-27 15:01       ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-28 15:43         ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-29  5:46         ` John Max Skaller
2003-04-25 16:59 ` Markus Mottl
2003-04-26  6:25   ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-27 14:13   ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-27 16:54     ` Eray Ozkural
2003-04-28  5:00       ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-28 17:45 ` malc
2003-04-28 18:16   ` Shivkumar Chandrasekaran

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