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From: Siegfried Gonzi <siegfried.gonzi@stud.uni-graz.at>
To: Noel Welsh <noelwelsh@yahoo.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Easy solution in OCaml?
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:05:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EAD18FC.7050108@stud.uni-graz.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030427164326.34082.qmail@web41211.mail.yahoo.com>

Noel Welsh wrote:

>Let me just check - you don't consider Scheme to be a
>functional language?
>

I think the following nails it down:

==

Historically, Lisp was one of the first languages to accomodate a 
functional programming style, and for this reason, some people still 
call it a functional programming language. However, that's not correct 
in a strict sense. Several paths have been followed since then, and 
while languages like Miranda and Haskell were surely influenced by early 
Lisp dialects, they have taken a purely functional approach. Today's 
Lisp dialects, foremostly Common Lisp, don't see any problems in making 
use of side effects, using iteration instead of recursion, using 
object-oriented abstraction if useful for the problem at hand, and so 
on. Just use the best abstraction for your current problem.
==

The above quote was pinched up from comp.lang.lisp; they had there 
discussions the other day. Okay, Scheme is considerd even more 
"functional" than Lisp, but the above quote is, I think, valid for 
Scheme too.

Monads are not mentioned in the above quote, but I would like to stress 
that Clean circumvents monadic file input-output but ensures a 
functional style with no side effects! I think they were the first to 
success in this way.

>
>Just about any alternative syntax would be cleaner
>than O'Caml! ;-)
>
>Noel, Scheme hacker and O'Caml lurker
>
One thing which I would like to have solved for myself:

Will  my Scheme code be readable a year later ? Or would in such a case 
Clean or OCaml pay off?

S. Gonzi


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       reply	other threads:[~2003-04-28 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20030427164326.34082.qmail@web41211.mail.yahoo.com>
2003-04-28 12:05 ` Siegfried Gonzi [this message]
2003-04-28 13:54   ` Noel Welsh
2003-04-28 14:22   ` David Brown
2003-04-28 14:38     ` sebastien FURIC
2003-04-28 18:14     ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-03 14:37       ` John Max Skaller
2003-05-03 16:57         ` Eray Ozkural
2003-04-28 15:27 isaac gouy
2003-04-28 16:38 ` brogoff
2003-04-28 17:13   ` isaac gouy
2003-04-28 17:48   ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-28 17:50     ` brogoff
2003-04-28 18:31       ` Eray Ozkural
2003-04-29  6:46       ` Siegfried Gonzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-25  6:05 Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-25  8:19 ` sebastien FURIC
2003-04-25 15:46 ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-25 16:34   ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-26 13:45   ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-26 21:51     ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-27 15:01       ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-28 15:43         ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-29  5:46         ` John Max Skaller
2003-04-25 16:59 ` Markus Mottl
2003-04-26  6:25   ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-27 14:13   ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-27 16:54     ` Eray Ozkural
2003-04-28  5:00       ` Siegfried Gonzi
2003-04-28 17:45 ` malc
2003-04-28 18:16   ` Shivkumar Chandrasekaran

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