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From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina@rktmb.org>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Some comments on recent discussions
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:01:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EDE3C4B.2050105@rktmb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDE33A0.6070004@gmail.com>

On 12/06/2011 06:24 PM, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
> Dear OCaml hackers,
>
> I'm very uneasy about the current opinions that are voiced on the
> caml-list. I have good reasons to think I'm not the only one in that
> situation, so please allow me to raise a few concerns about some recent
> discussions.

I join you.

> = Improving the community =
> I think the main point of the discussion is to improve "the community".
> If we really want to improve OCaml as a whole, then I think we can put
> our efforts on better areas than patching the compiler.

1°)
According to me, enlarging the user base is the root solution to this.
We need more tiny-to-small projects (they woul more look like code 
snippets) in Ocaml.

2°)
There is a need for "common type" web apps in Ocaml:
- a CMS (as Drupal, Joomla,...)
- a Redmine-like
- a blog hosting, just like Wordpress
- ..

3°)
There need to be an Ocaml application that has a link with a need in web 
development:
- an Ocaml thing better than Sonar http://www.sonarsource.org/
- http://goo.gl/Oq6ew


> == Package management system ==
> The thing that's most needed is, imho, a package manager that works.

That works and ease packaging for OS package manager: it should be easy 
to build RPMs, .deb, so that it's easy to upgrade for system 
administrators in production environments and easy to get _exposed_ in 
the system package management tool.

> = Conclusion =
> This is indeed a long rant, but I'd like to see us being more practical
> and down-to-earth. I love OCaml. I think we can do better for the language.

I'm on the way of creating a computer science institute of my view and 
the goal is to teach Ocaml, and produce OCaml code. We'll see how it 
works :-).


-- 
RMA.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-06 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-06 15:24 Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-06 15:31 ` Joel Reymont
2011-12-06 23:03   ` Martin Jambon
2011-12-06 16:01 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby [this message]
2011-12-06 16:03 ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06 16:56   ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-06 17:12 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-06 17:33 ` Alex Rubinsteyn
2011-12-06 17:53 ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-07  0:18   ` Paolo Donadeo
2011-12-07  1:00     ` oliver
2011-12-07  6:33       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-07  1:48     ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-07  9:53       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-07 10:33     ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2011-12-07 11:18       ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-07 13:15         ` David MENTRE
2011-12-07 13:48           ` Alan Schmitt
2011-12-07 14:56           ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-07 15:52         ` oliver
2011-12-10 14:58         ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-08  7:59       ` rixed
2011-12-08 10:37         ` oliver
2011-12-08 13:15         ` [Caml-list] Wanted book (Re: Some comments on recent discussions) Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-09 21:22           ` oliver
2011-12-09  7:13   ` [Caml-list] Some comments on recent discussions Martin Jambon
2011-12-10 20:32 ` Andrei Formiga
2011-12-10 21:01   ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 21:12     ` rixed
2011-12-10 21:24       ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 21:49         ` rixed
2011-12-10 22:45           ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 23:58       ` Hans Ole Rafaelsen
2011-12-11 10:25       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-11 10:06   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13 17:41   ` oliver
2011-12-13  5:54 ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  7:15   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13  8:21     ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  8:51       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-13  9:15         ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-13 14:08           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14  5:28           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-13  9:51         ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  9:53         ` Adrien
2011-12-13 20:52           ` Jon Harrop
2011-12-14  6:03           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14  9:34             ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-14 10:24               ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14 13:37                 ` Adrien
2011-12-14 14:24                   ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-14 15:27                   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 15:46                     ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-14 15:49                     ` Adrien
2011-12-14 16:42                       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-14 17:04                       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-15 21:38                         ` Adrien
2011-12-14 16:55                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14 21:35                     ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-15 11:14                     ` Adrien
2011-12-14 12:52             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 13:25               ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-14 17:27               ` Aleksey Nogin
2011-12-14 17:36                 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 19:41                   ` David Allsopp
2011-12-15 10:29                     ` Adrien
2011-12-15 17:41                       ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 20:47                         ` Adrien
2011-12-15 21:20                           ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 11:25                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 12:39                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-16 12:44                     ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-16 13:14                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 14:11                       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-16 14:50                         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 13:58                     ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-16 17:29                     ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-14 18:41                 ` Dmitry Grebeniuk
2011-12-14 23:54               ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 10:03                 ` Adrien

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