From: Vaughan Pratt <pratt@cs.stanford.edu>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Small is beautiful
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:57:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NRRls-0000K2-69@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1NQnf2-0007V3-Rg@mailserv.mta.ca>
Robert Pare wrote:
> Then
> there are the small categories which are used to study the large ones.
> These are syntactic in nature.
Don't get me started. Oops, too late.
> For these, one can't expect the kinds of
> universal constructions that large categories have,
Not following. FinSet is an essentially small category, what do you
mean that it doesn't enjoy universal constructions? It's even a topos.
Then there are the categories enriched in small categories, again
subject to cardinality restrictions, which too are perfectly capable of
enjoying universal constructions.
> but now it's okay,
> even necessary, to consider equality between objects.
For small as opposed to essentially small categories, yes in some cases.
But consider the category of ordinals truncated at say beth_2,
certainly a small category when the morphisms are the inequalities. Are
you comfortable defining equality on the objects of this category? (PTJ
would correctly accuse me of being inconsistent on this point.)
> Well, after these ramblings, perhaps my message is lost. So here it is:
> Small categories -> equality of objects okay
> Large categories -> equality of objects not okay
I hate to seem argumentative, Bob, but this can't possibly be the
difference between small and large.
> Small is beautiful, not evil.
Agreed, so long as this is not at the expense of large. Nice to be able
to close on a note of consensus. :)
Vaughan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-03 7:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-01 14:48 Robert Pare
2010-01-03 7:57 ` Vaughan Pratt [this message]
2010-01-03 16:23 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-01-06 14:30 ` Small2 Robert Pare
2010-01-03 21:42 ` Small is beautiful Ross Street
2010-01-04 8:41 ` Vaughan Pratt
2010-01-06 6:53 ` John Power
2010-01-07 11:12 ` Thomas Streicher
2010-01-08 13:29 ` Steve Vickers
2010-01-05 17:31 F William Lawvere
2010-01-07 1:10 ` Zinovy Diskin
2010-01-07 22:24 ` burroni
2010-01-07 14:31 ` Colin McLarty
2010-01-08 14:33 small " Paul Taylor
2010-01-09 21:05 ` burroni
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