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From: Michael Shulman <mshulman@ucsd.edu>
To: Toby Bartels <categories@tobybartels.name>
Cc: Categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: size_question_encore
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:03:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1QheqW-0006Vo-0e@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1QhW6o-0002f1-N8@mlist.mta.ca>

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Toby Bartels
<categories@tobybartels.name> wrote:
>>the axiom of collection, which implies that we can find some *set* of
>>objects containing *at least one* limit for every finite diagram in
>>the original small subcategory; and then we can iterate countably many
>>times to obtain a small category which contains at least one limit for
>>any finite diagram therein.
>
> The axiom of collection guarantees only *some* appropriate set of objects,
> so you need to choose one.  To iterate this countably many times,
> you might need dependent choice.

That's a good point.  However, I think we can get around it as
follows.  We can make finitely many choices without any axiom of
choice.  Thus, for any natural number n, by applying collection n
times, we can find *some* n^th iterate of the "construction".
(Formally, we prove this by induction on n.)  Applying the axiom of
collection again over the natural numbers, we obtain a set which
contains at least one n^th iterate of the "construction" for every
natural number n.  Taking the union of this set, we should obtain a
set of objects whose corresponding full subcategory contains at least
one limit of every finite diagram therein.

Mike


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-05 23:29 size_question_encore Eduardo Dubuc
2011-07-07  1:23 ` RE : categories: size_question_encore Joyal, André
     [not found] ` <9076_1310082720_4E16469F_9076_34_1_E1QeyJ6-00024q-CT@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-07-08 13:00   ` RE : size_question_encore Marta Bunge
2011-07-11  2:47 ` size_question_encore Michael Shulman
2011-07-14  4:10   ` size_question_encore Toby Bartels
2011-07-15  6:03     ` Michael Shulman [this message]
     [not found]   ` <CAOvivQyMSgtRMDwvwmV4+UaUfitN-GRaajkh5WxpCipy+U_c+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-15 16:51     ` size_question_encore Toby Bartels
2011-07-10 13:21 size_question_encore André Joyal
2011-07-10 13:30 size_question_encore André Joyal
     [not found] <4683_1310312511_4E19C83F_4683_87_1_E1Qfw7A-0008Cc-WC@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-07-10 17:43 ` size_question_encore Marta Bunge

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