From: Peter Johnstone <ptj@dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
To: Vladimir Voevodsky <vladimir@ias.edu>
Cc: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: non-unital monads
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:31:04 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Xg9yv-0005g0-RT@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Xfuky-00062U-DQ@mlist.mta.ca>
The answer to Vladimir's first question is no. Suppose \mu: TT --> T
has two units \eta, \zeta: 1 --> T. Then, for any A, the composite
\mu_A.T\eta_A.\zeta_A reduces to \zeta_A by one unit law; but it's
equal to \mu_A.\zeta_TA.\eta_A by naturality of \zeta, and this reduces
to \eta_A by the other unit law. (If you don't demand that the units be
`two-sided' then the answer is yes.)
Peter Johnstone
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Vladimir Voevodsky wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to find some information about non-unital monads (gadgets
> with \mu but without \eta).
>
> In particular I am interested in the following two questions:
>
> 1. Given a non-unital monad can it have two different "unitality"
> structures?
>
> 2. Is there a concept of a free non-unital monad? For example, I can
> think of the "free" non-unital monad generated by the functor X |->
> X^2 on sets as the monad that sends a set X into the set of
> "homogeneous" expressions made with one binary operation s such that
> there is s(x1,x2) and s(s(x1,x2),s(x3,x4)) but no x1 itself and no
> s(x1,s(x2,x3)). But what is the universal characterization of it?
>
> Thanks!
> Vladimir.
>
>
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-18 18:02 Vladimir Voevodsky
2014-10-20 9:31 ` Peter Johnstone [this message]
2014-10-20 16:47 ` Marek Zawadowski
2014-10-20 21:02 ` Tarmo Uustalu
2014-10-20 23:22 ` Richard Garner
2014-10-19 21:28 Tom Leinster
2014-10-20 18:22 Vladimir Voevodsky
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