categories - Category Theory list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
* Terminology re fibrations and opfibrations of categories
@ 2005-12-22  8:07 Ronald  Brown
  2005-12-26 21:57 ` Eduardo Dubuc
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ronald  Brown @ 2005-12-22  8:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories

To add to my previous email, I'd like reactions to the following
terminology:

Let P: X \to B be a functor. A morphism u: x \to y in X is  cofinal w.r.t.
P, and y is the P-final object w,r,t u and P , if ... (and here we have the
usual notion of cocartesian).

Dually,  u is coinitial, and x is the initial object w.r.t   u and P if ...
(and here we have the usual notion of cartesian).

In situations where P is understood, we can then talk about cofinal and
coinitial morphisms, and structures or objects or (in my case, groupoids).

An advantage is that the direction of the notion and its dual should be
clear.

If f=P(u), I would then write \bar{f}: x \to f_*(x) in the first case, and
\underline{f}: f^*(y) \to y in the second. I would also call f_*(x) the
object induced by f.  What is a handy name for f^*(y)? The restriction of y
by f?

All these notions occur for modules, crossed modules, ...... and relate to
change of base.

Ronnie
www.bangor.ac.uk/r.brown






^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread

* Re: Terminology re fibrations and opfibrations of categories
  2005-12-22  8:07 Terminology re fibrations and opfibrations of categories Ronald  Brown
@ 2005-12-26 21:57 ` Eduardo Dubuc
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Dubuc @ 2005-12-26 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories


Concerning  Ronnie wanderings about terminology around the word  FINAL,
the following is pertinent:

I am just writing a paper with Luis Espannol where we need to develop (the
basic part of the theory of cartesian and cocartesian arrows) for families

we use the following terminology:

consider a functor  U: C ---> S, then:

1)  a family in C              Z _i ---> X

over                           R_i --->  S   is    FINAL   iff:

given   S ---> T = UY  such that there exists   Z_i --->Y   over
R_i ---> S ---> T (that is,  R_i ---> S ---> T lifts), then there exists a
unique   X ---> Y over   S ---> T (that is,  S ---> T lifts).

For topological spaces this is the usual Bourbaki notion of final
topology.

When U is not understood, we call this  "U-FINAL"

Notice that for single arrows, we have (proved in the SGA on fibered
categories)

            Z ---> X is final     iff            it is cocartesian
                                          and cocartesian  arrows compose



2)  a family in C            Z _i ---> X

over                         R_i --->  S  is  SURJECTIVE   iff:

the family  R_i --->  S  is an strict (or regular) epimorphic family in S


Our aim is to prove under some natural and minimal assumptions:

  Z _i ---> X   is  strict epimorphic     iff    it is  final  surjective

All this is already done

Here the leading examples are the topological spaces  and  the
quasitopological spaces in the sense of Spanier  (and the whole theory of
concrete quasitopoi over S = Sets)



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread

* Re: Terminology re fibrations and opfibrations of categories
@ 2006-01-02 16:20 Hans-E. Porst
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Hans-E. Porst @ 2006-01-02 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories

Note that the suggestion below is standard terminology since about 30
years. See also

Adamek, Herrlich, Strecker: Abstract and concrete categories; Wiley 1990
(also available at   http://katmat.math.uni-bremen.de)

H.-E. Porst


Am 26.12.2005 um 22:57 schrieb Eduardo Dubuc:

> I am just writing a paper with Luis Espannol where we need to
> develop (the
> basic part of the theory of cartesian and cocartesian arrows) for
> families
>
> we use the following terminology:
>
> consider a functor  U: C ---> S, then:
>
> 1)  a family in C              Z _i ---> X
>
> over                           R_i --->  S   is    FINAL   iff:
>
> given   S ---> T = UY  such that there exists   Z_i --->Y   over
> R_i ---> S ---> T (that is,  R_i ---> S ---> T lifts), then there
> exists a
> unique   X ---> Y over   S ---> T (that is,  S ---> T lifts).
>
> For topological spaces this is the usual Bourbaki notion of final
> topology.
>
> When U is not understood, we call this  "U-FINAL"



--
Hans-E. Porst                                      porst@uni-bremen.de
Bremen, Germany                                     Fax: +49-421-75643





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread

end of thread, other threads:[~2006-01-02 16:20 UTC | newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2005-12-22  8:07 Terminology re fibrations and opfibrations of categories Ronald  Brown
2005-12-26 21:57 ` Eduardo Dubuc
2006-01-02 16:20 Hans-E. Porst

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).