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From: Richard Garner <richard.garner@mq.edu.au>
To: jamievicary@gmail.com
Cc: "categories@mq.edu.au" <categories@mq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Defining composition via colimit
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:23:11 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m0v8ajd93x.fsf@mq.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANr23v3TxKuo4mGqqTLd6qP=NMgE+iGq=jZVNjYVH6TSzL5xQQ@mail.gmail.com>


Hi Jamie,

That does sound interesting. Did you look at:

- Kelly, G. M., & Le Creurer, I. J. On the monadicity over graphs of
  categories with limits. Cahiers de Topologie et G\'eom\'etrie
  Diff\'erentielle Cat\'egoriques, 1997(38), 179–191.

This paper, among other things, shows that categories with limits
indexed by finite acyclic directed graphs are monadic over directed
graphs. It seems like you could be describing an algebra structure for
this monad (which is a fortiori a category). The paper gives a fairly
explicit presentation of this monad by generators and relations, so you
should be able to check fairly easily if that is indeed what is going
on.

Richard






Jamie Vicary <jamievicary@gmail.com> writes:

> Dear all,
>
> In a current project we have the following situation. For a category
> we are attempting to define, we know what the objects are, and also
> the morphisms. Unfortunately we do not have an obvious composition
> operation. What we do have is a "colimit" operation, which operates on
> a directed graph labelled by our objects and morphisms, and returns a
> putative colimit object equipped with a family of morphisms in the
> usual way (or fails.)
>
> We then define the composite of morphisms A->B,  B->C  to be the
> colimit of the diagram A->B->C. We then check that this composition
> operation satisfies the axioms of a category, and that our earlier
> colimit construction is indeed an actual colimit with respect to the
> compositional structure. It seems that everything works fine, and we
> are happy.
>
> My question is whether this has any precedent in the literature. The
> situation as I have described it is a bit simplified, in reality there
> is some higher categorical stuff going on. Personally I'm sure I've
> read similar things in the literature in the past but I can't track
> them down now that I actually need them. The nLab article on
> "composition" has some stuff about this with regard to transfinite
> composition, but we're not trying to do anything transfinite here.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jamie


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-02 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-26 14:14 Signing off Bob Rosebrugh
2023-10-26 20:08 ` Keith Harbaugh
2023-10-26 21:16 ` Jirí Adámek
2023-10-26 22:22   ` [EXT] " Bob Coecke
2023-10-26 21:45 ` Robin Cockett
2023-10-26 22:42 ` Steve Awodey
2023-10-27  4:01   ` Alexander Kurz
2023-10-27  4:30   ` johnm
2023-10-29 15:03     ` George Janelidze
2023-11-01 16:17       ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2023-11-01 21:35         ` Joyal, André
2023-10-27  1:41 ` Valeria de Paiva
2023-10-27  4:48 ` Ross Street
2023-10-27  6:17   ` Vaughan Pratt
2023-10-27  6:39 ` Patrik Eklund
2023-10-27  6:55 ` Vaughan Pratt
2023-10-27  8:46 ` Manuela Sobral
2023-10-27 17:37 ` Clemens Berger
2023-10-27 19:59 ` Robert Dawson
2023-10-28 11:12 ` Robert Pare
2023-11-02 18:55 ` Defining composition via colimit Jamie Vicary
2023-11-02 23:23   ` Richard Garner [this message]
     [not found] <f93fc7025b48c018f4d644ae95d2f11e.squirrel@webmail.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
     [not found] ` <a31ae7ae-b5f5-4f86-9b4f-0b36adab1ea7-0@mqoutlook.onmicrosoft.com>
2023-11-03 10:29   ` JS Lemay

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