From: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>,
Computer Old Farts Followers <coff@tuhs.org>
Subject: [COFF] Re: [TUHS] On Bloat and the Idea of Small Specialized Tools
Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 01:02:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240510230217.IRjT8OER@steffen%sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PeOLQre8x4XcJdyGGAFmKUC3j-JB=v=j+VJ7KuFrGojw@mail.gmail.com>
Clem Cole wrote in
<CAC20D2PeOLQre8x4XcJdyGGAFmKUC3j-JB=v=j+VJ7KuFrGojw@mail.gmail.com>:
|While the idea of small tools that do one job well is the core tenant of
|what I think of as the UNIX philosophy, this goes a bit beyond UNIX, so I
|have moved this discussion to COFF and BCCing TUHS for now.
|
|The key is that not all "bloat" is the same (really)—or maybe one person's
|bloat is another person's preference. That said, NIH leads to pure bloat
Yeah, give me back my "cat -vet"!
|with little to recommend it, while multiple offerings are a choice. Maybe
|the difference between the two may be one person's view over another.
Sure. Many of the small Unix tools are simply unknown to many
newcomers (like myself), or they turn out to be too simple, pr has
always been enscript here, for example. I wonder how many modern
Linux systems even ship the majority of these tools, or how often
they get invoked, if at all.
But deep in my heart i dislike the systemd that totally
contradicts the entire concept as such, and hope i can stick to my
fast and simple booting with SysV scripts, and separate daemons
for separate tasks.
...[dropped the top-posted stuff]
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-10 23:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-10 16:36 [COFF] " Clem Cole
2024-05-10 23:02 ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2024-05-11 9:18 ` [COFF] " Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-11 21:18 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-05-11 21:33 ` Larry McVoy
2024-05-10 23:22 ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] " Nevin Liber
2024-05-11 9:31 ` [COFF] " Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-11 12:51 ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] " John P. Linderman
2024-05-11 13:12 ` Dan Cross
2024-05-11 14:41 ` Bakul Shah via COFF
2024-05-11 15:45 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2024-05-11 17:18 ` [COFF] " Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-11 21:35 ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] " Theodore Ts'o
2024-05-12 7:13 ` Gergely Buday
2024-05-12 7:29 ` [COFF] " Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-12 22:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-05-11 19:24 ` [COFF] Re: [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2024-05-13 6:20 ` [COFF] " Arno Griffioen via COFF
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