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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers <coff@tuhs.org>
Subject: [COFF] Re: Of PL/I
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 12:40:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2NcpbggiT4fJCNTdQ8UzdU7bXsvG6+o8Hh+X32=Ut2uBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2404030158410.31370@aneurin.horsfall.org>

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On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:23 AM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:

> Has there ever been a full implementation of PL/I?

Well all of the IBM, GE/Honeywell and DEC compilers were certified.
Bob Freiburghouse
(who was part of the Multics compiler if I understand this right), created
a firm in Mass that built a number of commercial compilers for  a number of
folks, with PL/1 being their prime.  In fact when DEC bought the PL/1
front-end from them (which was in PL/1 of course), Culter and team wrote
the VAX back-end, they had to cross-compile in Cambridge (I think at MIT)
and bring the assembler source back to ZKO in Nashua to assemble and test.



>   It seems akin to solving the halting problem...
>
No more than Algol-68 and many modern languages.

>
> Yes, I've used PL/I in my CompSci days, and was told that IBM had
> trademarked everything from /I to /C :-)
>
I think that is more like an urban legend and IBM's notorious marketing
behavior since Gary Kidall (who was originally a compiler guy) created PL/M
for the 8080 and sold it to Intel.

>
> -- Dave, who loved PL/360
>
Yeah - it might have been Nicklaus Wirth's best language.  I still have
the Standford manuals, but I can not say I have seen a working compiler
since the late 1970s :-)
ᐧ

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-02 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02 15:06 [COFF] " Dave Horsfall
2024-04-02 16:40 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2024-04-02 17:01   ` [COFF] " Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-04-03 16:18     ` Paul Winalski
2024-04-03 17:30       ` segaloco via COFF
2024-04-03 20:44         ` Paul Winalski
2024-04-04  3:37         ` Wesley Parish
2024-04-04 15:40           ` Paul Winalski
2024-04-04 22:53           ` Peter Pentchev
2024-04-07 23:10     ` Dave Horsfall
2024-04-07 23:25       ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-04-09 21:41         ` Stuff Received
2024-04-10  0:50           ` [COFF] SNOBOL, ICEBOL, SPITBOL, et al William H. Mitchell
2024-04-10  1:42             ` [COFF] " Dave Horsfall
2024-04-08  1:13       ` [COFF] Re: Of PL/I Paul Winalski
2024-04-02 19:25   ` Stuff Received
2024-04-02 20:31     ` William H. Mitchell

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