[COFF] Popular Programming languages over time

[wobblygong at gmail.com (Wesley Parish)]

FWVLIW, I'm fooling around trying to learn PHP at this moment. Yes,
web development is pretty big, and it is driving the usage of those
languages.

What gets me with PHP - and Javascript, which I'm going to have to
learn if I want to really enter this web development career - is the
lack of type-checking. A nephew, who is currently employed in
Kubernetes and web development, uses Microsoft's Typescript in
preference (Typescript may be one of Microsoft's redeeming
developments - it's more typesafe than Javascript, though how much I
don't know! :)

Wesley Parish

On 3/20/20, Adam Thornton <athornton at gmail.com> wrote:
> PHP was the BASIC of the late 90s and early 2000s; Javascript was (and is)
> the BASIC of the subsequent generation.
>
> I mean that, of course, in both good and bad ways, and as someone whose
> initial experience was BASIC in the ROMs of Apple IIs and C64s.  Bad in
> that neither one is a well-(or even particularly-intentionally) designed
> language.  Good in that it's easy to get the results you want with some
> iteration and very little theory or formal training; a novice can
> bootstrap/cargo-cult something into being pretty easily.
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:04 AM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw that a while ago.  I'd love to know more about the dataset behind
>> it
>> as Larry asked,
>>
>> FWIW: Pascal/Delphi being big did not surprise me as it was what was
>> taught in the colleges in the 70s.   Today they are teaching Python and
>> Java so we see generations of new programmers going into the world with
>> those skills (like my own daughter).
>>
>> Larry - I think the way to explain Ada, is that it was very big for a
>> while when DoD, DoC and some of DoE when USG bids required it.  But as
>> fast
>> as it rose, it fell pretty fast from favor.
>>
>> For me, I'm always amazed at things like Javascript and PHP, but their
>> rise is directly mapped to people creating web sites.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:34 PM Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to know where the data came from.  Ada that big?  Says who?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 03:41:22PM -0700, David Barto wrote:
>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og847HVwRSI
>>> >
>>> > It???s kind of amazing how long Pascal hangs on to #1.
>>> > And you can watch the ascent of web programming.
>>> >
>>> >       David
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