* day of week in Date header?
@ 2000-05-05 17:47 Kai Großjohann
2000-05-05 18:59 ` Shenghuo ZHU
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-05-05 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
My Date header seems to contain the day of week, whereas most other
Date headers generated by Gnus don't.
Where does the day of week come from?
kai
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-05 17:47 day of week in Date header? Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-05-05 18:59 ` Shenghuo ZHU
2000-05-05 20:58 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Shenghuo ZHU @ 2000-05-05 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "KG" == Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:
KG> My Date header seems to contain the day of week, whereas most other
KG> Date headers generated by Gnus don't.
KG> Where does the day of week come from?
The Date headers are generated by message-make-date. Are you using a
modified message-make-date?
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-05 18:59 ` Shenghuo ZHU
@ 2000-05-05 20:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-05 21:07 ` Shenghuo ZHU
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-05-05 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:
> The Date headers are generated by message-make-date. Are you using a
> modified message-make-date?
No. Hm. My outgoing messages don't have a Date header before I hit
C-c C-c, but that's normal for message-generate-headers-first being
nil, right?
And message-required-mail-headers contains `Date'. Most amazing.
Hm. Could it be that sendmail is frobbing the Date header?
Hm. I've got the following section in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf:
/----
| #########################
| # Format of headers #
| #########################
|
| H?P?Return-Path: <$g>
| HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_)
| $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?u
| for $u; $|;
| $.$b
| H?D?Resent-Date: $a
| H?D?Date: $a
| H?F?Resent-From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$.
| H?F?From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$.
| H?x?Full-Name: $x
| # HPosted-Date: $a
| # H?l?Received-Date: $b
| H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>
| H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>
\----
Does that mean that the Date header is stomped over by sendmail? Hm.
kai
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-05 20:58 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-05-05 21:07 ` Shenghuo ZHU
2000-05-05 21:56 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Shenghuo ZHU @ 2000-05-05 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "KG" == Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:
KG> Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:
>> The Date headers are generated by message-make-date. Are you using a
>> modified message-make-date?
KG> No. Hm. My outgoing messages don't have a Date header before I
KG> hit C-c C-c, but that's normal for message-generate-headers-first
KG> being nil, right?
KG> And message-required-mail-headers contains `Date'. Most amazing.
KG> Hm. Could it be that sendmail is frobbing the Date header?
KG> Hm. I've got the following section in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf:
[...]
KG> Does that mean that the Date header is stomped over by sendmail? Hm.
All these settings are the same as mine. message-make-date is called
after you hit C-c C-c. What is the output of (message-make-date)?
(message-make-date)
=> 05 May 2000 17:06:46 -0400
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-05 21:07 ` Shenghuo ZHU
@ 2000-05-05 21:56 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-05 22:20 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-05-05 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:
> All these settings are the same as mine. message-make-date is called
> after you hit C-c C-c. What is the output of (message-make-date)?
>
> (message-make-date)
> => 05 May 2000 17:06:46 -0400
(message-make-date)
=> "05 May 2000 23:56:06 +0200"
I'll debug-on-entry that function now.
kai
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-05 21:56 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-05-05 22:20 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-06 4:09 ` Jesper Harder
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-05-05 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> (message-make-date)
> => "05 May 2000 23:56:06 +0200"
>
> I'll debug-on-entry that function now.
I have now done this, and verified that message is indeed inserting
the right Date header into the message. So I think that something
outside of Gnus, presumably sendmail, is twiddling with that header.
Thanks.
kai
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-05 22:20 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-05-06 4:09 ` Jesper Harder
2000-05-06 7:52 ` Russ Allbery
2000-05-06 11:37 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Jesper Harder @ 2000-05-06 4:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> I have now done this, and verified that message is indeed inserting
> the right Date header into the message. So I think that something
> outside of Gnus, presumably sendmail, is twiddling with that header.
I get this list from the news-server at sunsite.auc.dk, and I know that
it strips away the original date-header and inserts a new one -- this
happens to mailing list messages and normal Usenet messages, too. The
news-server at my ISP also does this.
I don't think this behaviour actually violates rfc-1036, but it /is/
wrong according to grandson-of-1036.
Cheers,
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-06 4:09 ` Jesper Harder
@ 2000-05-06 7:52 ` Russ Allbery
2000-05-06 11:37 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Russ Allbery @ 2000-05-06 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jesper Harder <jesper_harder@hotmail.com> writes:
> I get this list from the news-server at sunsite.auc.dk, and I know that
> it strips away the original date-header and inserts a new one -- this
> happens to mailing list messages and normal Usenet messages, too. The
> news-server at my ISP also does this.
> I don't think this behaviour actually violates rfc-1036, but it /is/
> wrong according to grandson-of-1036.
It violates a MUST in the current USEFOR draft, for what it's worth, and
has been the cause of spews in the past.
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* Re: day of week in Date header?
2000-05-06 4:09 ` Jesper Harder
2000-05-06 7:52 ` Russ Allbery
@ 2000-05-06 11:37 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-05-06 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Jesper Harder <jesper_harder@hotmail.com> writes:
> I get this list from the news-server at sunsite.auc.dk, and I know that
> it strips away the original date-header and inserts a new one -- this
> happens to mailing list messages and normal Usenet messages, too. The
> news-server at my ISP also does this.
I'm subscribed directly to the mailing list and still see the day of
week. Hm.
kai
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