visibility of groups

visibility of groups

[Richard Riley]

I have my groups visibilty regexp set to INBOX - so all mail group
inboxes are always shown. I realise that "by hitting L you can have it
show empty subscribed groups and unsubscribed groups". But how to show
(in addition to the regexp groups) empty subscribed groups that are not
normally shown but NOT unsubscribed groups? Can this be done via Group
levels or something easier and more obvious that I have missed? e.g I
might want to suddenly see my sent folder and my spam folder both of
which are not normally visible. Or should I simply zombify all the non
subscribed groups that become visible with L?

thanks

r.

Re: visibility of groups

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> e.g I might want to suddenly see my sent folder and my spam folder
> both of which are not normally visible.

Put the `visible' group parameter on the group.  See the manual for
details. 

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: visibility of groups

[Richard Riley]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> e.g I might want to suddenly see my sent folder and my spam folder
>> both of which are not normally visible.
>
> Put the `visible' group parameter on the group.  See the manual for
> details. 

According to the manual thats not what I want - I could also include it
in the "always visible" regexp for that functionality. The manual says
adding that will make it always visible.

,----
| `visible'
|      If the group parameter list has the element `(visible . t)', that
|      group will always be visible in the Group buffer, regardless of
|      whether it has any unread articles.
| 
|      This parameter cannot be set via `gnus-parameters'. See
|      `gnus-permanently-visible-groups' as an alternative.
`----


The "not normally shown" is the key part in the original explanation/question

,----
| inboxes are always shown. I realise that "by hitting L you can have it
| show empty subscribed groups and unsubscribed groups". But how to show
| (in addition to the regexp groups) empty subscribed groups that are not
| normally shown but NOT unsubscribed groups? Can this be done via Group
`----

e.g "myfolder" is not in the "always visible" regexp. But it IS
subscribed. It has no unread articles. I want to see it
temporarily. Currently I can only seem to do that by hitting L. This
ALSO shows all unsubscribed (U) groups of which I have many -clearly I'm
not interested in seeing unsubscribed groups.

cheers

r.

Re: visibility of groups

[Dan Christensen]

To make a single group be shown temporarily, hit `j' in the *Group*
buffer and enter the group name.

Dan

Re: visibility of groups

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> I want to see it temporarily. Currently I can only seem to do that by
> hitting L.

Oh.  `j'.

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: visibility of groups

[Richard Riley]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> To make a single group be shown temporarily, hit `j' in the *Group*
> buffer and enter the group name.
>

That's a manual way yes. I would like to see all subscribed groups. Not all
the time : currently L does that but includes all U groups too.

Simpler use case. I have 10 email inboxes that I dont want displayed all
the time so they are not marked or regexped as "always visible". But I
do want to, on a whim, browse them. They are valid subscribed groups.
That seems much more useful than L which shows all empty subscribed AND
all U groups.

Re: visibility of groups

[Richard Riley]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> I want to see it temporarily. Currently I can only seem to do that by
>> hitting L.
>
> Oh.  `j'.

that then requires the group name. I detailed it more in the explanation
to Dan.

"Show all subscribed groups and only subscribed groups" seems a pretty
normal need.

Re: visibility of groups

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> I would like to see all subscribed groups.

`5 l'.

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: visibility of groups

[Dan Christensen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> That's a manual way yes. I would like to see all subscribed groups. Not all
> the time : currently L does that but includes all U groups too.

L takes a prefix argument which is the level.  That does the trick for me.

Dan

Re: visibility of groups

[Richard Riley]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> That's a manual way yes. I would like to see all subscribed groups. Not all
>> the time : currently L does that but includes all U groups too.
>
> L takes a prefix argument which is the level.  That does the trick for me.
>
> Dan
>

Aha, now I have it. I thought it would come back to group levels.

thanks a lot.

t.