gnus-load problem

gnus-load problem

[Jake Colman]

I just upgraded from a beta release to the official 5.10.1 release.  I added

  (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode)

to my .gnus file but when I enter dired-mode I get an error that
turn-on-gnus-dired-mode is undefined.  If I manually eval the autoload in
gnus-load.el, it all works.  From this I deduced that I needed to (require
'gnus-load) after I added gnus-5.10.1 to my load-path.  When I require the
file I get an error 'already loaded'.  

What gives?

...Jake

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Re: gnus-load problem

[Andrew McDermott]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

> I just upgraded from a beta release to the official 5.10.1 release.  I added
>
>   (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode)

I also saw this in the release notes and got the same error.  I
randomly tried:

    (require 'gnus-dired)

which seemed to do the trick.  Perhaps the release notes should be
amended if this is the _correct_ fix.

> to my .gnus file but when I enter dired-mode I get an error that
> turn-on-gnus-dired-mode is undefined.  If I manually eval the autoload in
> gnus-load.el, it all works.  From this I deduced that I needed to (require
> 'gnus-load) after I added gnus-5.10.1 to my load-path.  When I require the
> file I get an error 'already loaded'.  
>
> What gives?

-- 
andy

Re: gnus-load problem

[Jake Colman]

Well it would seem that gnus-load is what is supposed to be loaded so that
all the autoloads are defined.  Yes, of course, I can simply load
gnus-dired.  But if I am missing gnus-dired then I might be missing other
things and gnus-load is supposed remove those worries but simply defining
autoloads for everything you might be using.

>>>>> "AM" == Andrew McDermott <andrew.mcdermott@windriver.com> writes:

   AM> I also saw this in the release notes and got the same error.  I
   AM> randomly tried:

   AM>     (require 'gnus-dired)

   AM> which seemed to do the trick.  Perhaps the release notes should be
   AM> amended if this is the _correct_ fix.


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Re: gnus-load problem

[Kai Großjohann]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

> to my .gnus file but when I enter dired-mode I get an error that
> turn-on-gnus-dired-mode is undefined.  If I manually eval the autoload in
> gnus-load.el, it all works.  From this I deduced that I needed to (require
> 'gnus-load) after I added gnus-5.10.1 to my load-path.  When I require the
> file I get an error 'already loaded'.  

I have (require 'gnus-load) in ~/.emacs.  (It's bad to put it in
~/.gnus, because at that time parts of Gnus are already loaded, so
it's too late to do loading setup...)
-- 
file-error; Data: (Opening input file no such file or directory ~/.signature)

Re: gnus-load problem

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, May 06 2003, Kai Großjohann wrote:

> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>> [...] From this I deduced that I needed to (require 'gnus-load)
>> after I added gnus-5.10.1 to my load-path.  When I require the file
>> I get an error 'already loaded'.

I think we should mention Jesper's suggestion...
(setq features (delete 'gnus-autoloads features))
(require 'gnus-load)
... in the instructions (for XEmacs only?).

> I have (require 'gnus-load) in ~/.emacs.  (It's bad to put it in
> ~/.gnus, because at that time parts of Gnus are already loaded, so
> it's too late to do loading setup...)

Really?  Isn't gnus-load (as all auto-loads) just a mapping between
say functions and required files.  So, if the load-path has been set
correctly, why can it be possible to load the wrong file?

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: gnus-load problem

[Karl Pflästerer]

On  6 May 2003, Reiner Steib <- 4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de wrote:

> On Tue, May 06 2003, Kai Großjohann wrote:

> I think we should mention Jesper's suggestion...
> (setq features (delete 'gnus-autoloads features))
> (require 'gnus-load)
> ... in the instructions (for XEmacs only?).

I think there must be something other wrong. I had never such a problem.

>> I have (require 'gnus-load) in ~/.emacs.  (It's bad to put it in
>> ~/.gnus, because at that time parts of Gnus are already loaded, so
>> it's too late to do loading setup...)

I have it in my `init.el' without any problems.


bye
   KP

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Re: gnus-load problem

[Jesper Harder]

Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:


> I think we should mention Jesper's suggestion...
>
> (setq features (delete 'gnus-autoloads features))
> (require 'gnus-load)
>
> ... in the instructions (for XEmacs only?).

Hmm ... doing

  (unload-feature 'gnus-autoloads)

is probably the correct way.

Actually, something like it might be recommendable in Emacs too -- I
think I have occassionally had errors because I was picking up wrong
autoloads for Gnus 5.9 when browsing Custom groups.

Could `unload-feature' cure that?

But I don't know what it's called in Emacs (gnus-autoloads doesn't
exist).

Re: gnus-load problem

[Jake Colman]

Ooops.  My bad.  I said .gnus but I did not mean it.  I have it in my
~/.xemacs/init.el (XEmacs 21.4 does not use .emacs anymore) which is where
it belongs.  But, it didn't work...

>>>>> "KG" == Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> writes:

   KG> I have (require 'gnus-load) in ~/.emacs.  (It's bad to put it in
   KG> ~/.gnus, because at that time parts of Gnus are already loaded, so
   KG> it's too late to do loading setup...)
   KG> -- 
   KG> file-error; Data: (Opening input file no such file or directory ~/.signature)

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Re: gnus-load problem

[Benjamin Rutt]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

> Ooops.  My bad.  I said .gnus but I did not mean it.  I have it in my
> ~/.xemacs/init.el (XEmacs 21.4 does not use .emacs anymore) which is where
> it belongs.  But, it didn't work...

The following lines in your .gnus should always enable
gnus-dired-mode, end of story:

(require 'gnus-dired)
(add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode)
-- 
Benjamin

Re: gnus-load problem

[Jake Colman]

My point was not how to solve the problem - I also know how to do that.  My
point was that (require 'gnus-load) does not seem to work!  If gnus-dired had
not yet been required, it implied to me that other stuff might also be
missing so it behooved me to (require 'gnus-load).  My posting was to report
that there is a problem with that.

>>>>> "BR" == Benjamin Rutt <rutt+news@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes:

   BR> The following lines in your .gnus should always enable
   BR> gnus-dired-mode, end of story:

   BR> (require 'gnus-dired)
   BR> (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode)

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Re: gnus-load problem

[Jesper Harder]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

> I just upgraded from a beta release to the official 5.10.1 release.  I added
>
>   (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode)
>
> to my .gnus file but when I enter dired-mode I get an error that
> turn-on-gnus-dired-mode is undefined.  If I manually eval the autoload in
> gnus-load.el, it all works.  From this I deduced that I needed to (require
> 'gnus-load) after I added gnus-5.10.1 to my load-path.  When I require the
> file I get an error 'already loaded'.  

I think it's an XEmacs bug.  It might work if you put this

       (setq features (delete 'gnus-autoloads features))

before (require 'gnus-load).

Re: gnus-load problem

[Jake Colman]

This works.  Can anyone tell me why?

>>>>> "JH" == Jesper Harder <harder@myrealbox.com> writes:

   JH> I think it's an XEmacs bug.  It might work if you put this

   JH>        (setq features (delete 'gnus-autoloads features))

   JH> before (require 'gnus-load).

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Re: gnus-load problem

[Jesper Harder]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

>>>>>> "JH" == Jesper Harder <harder@myrealbox.com> writes:
>
>    JH> I think it's an XEmacs bug.  It might work if you put this
>
>    JH>        (setq features (delete 'gnus-autoloads features))
>
>    JH> before (require 'gnus-load).
>
> This works.  Can anyone tell me why?

Because XEmacs inserts this line

  (if (featurep 'gnus-autoloads) (error "Already loaded"))

in gnus-load.el.  I have no idea why it does that -- Emacs doesn't.

Re: gnus-load problem

[Gleb Arshinov]

>>>>> "Jake" == Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

    Jake> From this I deduced that I needed to (require 'gnus-load)
    Jake> after I added gnus-5.10.1 to my load-path.  When I require
    Jake> the file I get an error 'already loaded'.

I was getting this until I removed old Gnus packages from XEmacs
package hierarchy.

Gleb