* Re: agent skips over emails
2018-07-17 8:17 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2018-07-17 9:02 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-17 9:33 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-07-17 9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tuesday, 17 Jul 2018 at 10:17, Steinar Bang wrote:
> Do you read main from this IMAP server from several gnus'en that all use
> agent?
Hi Steinar,
yes, I do often read from different systems, but the problem arises
without doing so. Yesterday, I turned off the agent as I needed to get
work done with stressing about missing emails.
This morning, using only one system, I turned the agent on to see if I
could start figuring out what was going on. I had outlook web access
(OWA) on the browser in the corner of the display to monitor what was
coming in etc.
I started gnus, went into the INBOX group. All unread emails shown
(about 30) matched what I could see in the OWA window. I read all the
emails and went back to the group buffer by quitting the group. So far
so good.
In the OWA window, I noticed that three new emails had come in while I
had been reading the INBOX group and, in fact, the number of unread
shown in the group buffer for that group is 3. So I went back into that
group: no new unread emails! Quit the group and I see, in the OWA
window, that 2 of the 3 new emails are now marked as read. I rescan the
groups and gnus tells me that there is 1 unread email. I go in to the
group. I can see the new email but the two that were marked as read
that I had not actually read are nowhere to be seen (e.g. "/o 100" in
the summary buffer shows me plenty of old read emails but not those
two).
To be clear, in all of the above, all interactions are with gnus. The
OWA window is just sitting there. Somehow, gnus (while using the agent)
loses emails, at least in this case, when emails arrive while a group is
being read. Maybe other times as well, of course.
> To be able to see these messages I have to remove the agent from that
> nnimap server, temporarily.
Yes but I cannot function like that. I get many emails and I expect the
system to keep track of what I have read and what I have not; if I have
to manually go through all emails (that are marked as read) to actually
see if I have already read them, I will go crazy!
I would love to have the agent working with confidence. I travel a lot
and offline access is important but, even when online, the use of the
agent as a cache is fantastic given the slowness of the outlook server I
have to use (for work).
thanks,
eric
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Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid
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* Re: agent skips over emails
2018-07-17 8:17 ` Steinar Bang
2018-07-17 9:02 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2018-07-17 9:33 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-07-17 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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Hi Steinar,
one more data point: the article numbers for emails in Outlook are not
contiguous. That is, there are gaps so that the article numbers might
be 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 11, 12, ... This screenshot of my INBOX summary
window (showing only article numbers, flags and the time of the message)
shows this:
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The two that went missing earlier were 522589 and 522591.
I have no idea why this non-contiguous numbering might be but I wonder
if this might affect the agent in some way given that it seems to care
what the "active" number is? Does the agent assume contiguous values of
the article numbers?
Everything that has to do with MS is fraught with fragility...
thanks,
eric
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Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid
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