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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: a Gnus biff (was: Restricting frequency of 'g')
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:12:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86d4p0830f.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87prt1ypwc.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (Russ Allbery's message of "Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:41:23 -0700")

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:41:23 -0700 Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> wrote: 

RA> John SJ Anderson <genehack@genehack.org> writes:
>> jidanni@jidanni.org writes:

>>> Your time-limited and cron-job-style assisted approaches are
>>> artificial.
>> 
>> Yes, but at least for me, the issue isn't that fetching mail takes a
>> long time -- the issue is that I do it far too frequently (the "rat
>> hitting the button to see if a crack pellet comes out" phenomenon). 

RA> Exactly.  The problem that I'm solving is not a software problem.  It's a
RA> brain crutch.  This particular limitation was inspired by reading about
RA> Inbox Zero and realizing the degree to which I constantly check my e-mail,
RA> have great difficulty not immediately processing mail as soon as I see it,
RA> and have great difficulty not replying to mail as soon as I've processed
RA> it, all of which distracts me from getting done the things I actually need
RA> to work on.

I hope my approach is helpful:

1) `g' in Gnus takes a loooong time (everything is fetched) so I only do
it every 1-2 hours, or when I leave for a few minutes.

2) I have an `i' alias that shows me what new messages have arrived
(it's a Perl script that speaks IMAP and Maildir).  It can even display
a particular message by number if I must see it right away.

3) I use M-g on a group if a new message is interesting and it will go
to that group, and I want to do something with that message.

Gnus could use something like (2), a biff command that just peeks in all
the mail sources and generates a quick summary, but you can't do
anything with it.  The command could even show the destination groups
for each message using the split rules.  With IMAP/POP3 and file-based
methods this is all fairly easy.

Ted



  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-08 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-06  3:36 Restricting frequency of 'g' Russ Allbery
2008-04-06  4:54 ` Bill O'Connor
2008-04-06  6:43   ` Russ Allbery
2008-04-06 11:55 ` John SJ Anderson
2008-04-07  1:30   ` Russ Allbery
2008-04-07 23:45     ` jidanni
2008-04-08  0:54       ` John SJ Anderson
2008-04-08  3:41         ` Russ Allbery
2008-04-08 21:12           ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2008-04-09 13:59             ` a Gnus biff Wes Hardaker
2008-04-08  3:55 ` Restricting frequency of 'g' Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-09  6:49   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-09 19:22     ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-12 14:58       ` Mark Plaksin
2008-07-29 21:14       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-07-30 18:04         ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-30 19:32           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-07  6:27       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-07 20:16         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-07 21:55           ` Russ Allbery
2010-10-08 17:28             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-08 15:14           ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2010-10-09 15:36             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-09 15:50               ` Richard Riley

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