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From: Dale Hagglund <rdh@best.com>
Subject: Re: No more buttons by default?
Date: 21 Nov 1998 00:12:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86d86hwjk7.fsf@ponoka.battleriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "21 Nov 1998 05:29:52 +0100"

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:

> > The idea has been that the receipient would see the text to read
> > inline in the message, but would be provided with buttons to make it
> > easy for him to save it to a file.

> Right.  But that's not what the RFCs say that the reader should do.

I'm curious where you find this in the RFCs?  I've been browsing RFCs
2045 and 2046, and I haven't noticed anything that obviously implies
this, at least to me.

> Anyway -- even though I don't like the buttons much, there may be an
> argument that it should be easy to handle MIME parts independently.

In general, I don't buy the claim of equivalence between HTML and
MIME.  In HTML, the internal structure is hidden by the displayer
because the document is in some sense a unified whole.  To me, MIME is
more of a transport mechanism for carrying multiple loosely-coupled
pieces.  The structure is important, and should be displayed to the
user.

> However, the user must (I think) be given some visual clue as to where 
> each parts starts (and stops).  The buttons are too heavy, but can
> anyone come up with some other clue that would be less intrusive?

I agree that the current buttons takes up a lot of space, and aren't
the prettiest things imaginable.  But, I'd rather have buttons as they
are than no demarcation of the various body parts at all.

The only alternative I can think of is some sort of alternating
background color between for alternating background parts, ie, white,
light grey, white, light grey.  However, with this, I loose the
ability to easily identify the part number for commands like `2 b'
from the summary buffer.

Dale.


  reply	other threads:[~1998-11-21  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-11-15  1:01 Pterodactyl Gnus v0.46 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-15 21:49 ` Graham Murray
1998-11-16  8:18   ` Graham Murray
1998-11-17 23:38     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-18  3:17       ` Alexandre Oliva
1998-11-18  6:36         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-18  6:53           ` Alexandre Oliva
1998-11-18  7:27             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-18  7:36               ` Alexandre Oliva
1998-11-18  8:12                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-18  8:22           ` Kai.Grossjohann
1998-11-18  8:42             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-18 21:57           ` François Pinard
1998-11-19  5:57             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-19 11:31               ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-11-19 11:46                 ` Lee Willis
1998-11-19 11:50                   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-11-20  1:51                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-19 16:23               ` François Pinard
1998-11-19 21:01                 ` Edward J. Sabol
1998-11-19 22:29                   ` François Pinard
1998-11-20  1:57                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-20 10:25                       ` No more buttons by default? Hrvoje Niksic
1998-11-20 13:15                         ` Steinar Bang
1998-11-20 15:37                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-20 17:30                             ` Karl Kleinpaste
1998-11-20 17:45                             ` Steinar Bang
1998-11-20 17:48                               ` Steinar Bang
1998-11-21  4:29                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-21  8:12                                 ` Dale Hagglund [this message]
1998-11-21  8:49                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-21  9:19                                     ` Dale Hagglund
1998-11-21 18:14                                 ` Matt Armstrong
1998-11-20 15:13                         ` François Pinard
1998-11-22 12:06                           ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-11-24  9:29                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-20 15:28                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-20 17:56                           ` Raja R Harinath
1998-11-20 18:07                             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1998-11-21  4:31                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-20 12:19                 ` Pterodactyl Gnus v0.46 is released Kai.Grossjohann
1998-11-20 12:35                   ` Kai.Grossjohann
1998-11-20 15:26                     ` François Pinard
1998-11-20 12:12               ` Kai.Grossjohann
1998-11-20 15:17                 ` François Pinard

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