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* gnus-thread-ignore-subject  seems to stop working
@ 2019-04-28  9:00 Uwe Brauer
  2019-04-28 17:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2019-04-28  9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding


Hi

I am using GNU emacs from master (a couple of weeks old with the
corresponding gnus version).

I noticed that gnus-thread-ignore-subject  seems to stop working


Here is a header when replying setting the variable to 
nil 

,----
| To: john foo
| Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
| Subject: Re: [Newton]
| References: <87r2b5flih.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7itB97FnVHjncrucp086yjM_y_OZQ5goO8XORXzfricgw@mail.gmail.com>
| 	<8955D455-6F67-46E6-8148-4287573DDD6C@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7jaUn-nFx3On4UqX-dmS0yr9-52UxqXU=QShQF2gdn4mQ@mail.gmail.com>
| 	<87wokvevev.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7j8Qs0yfqfua1wZCfFcRcGj9ooD2U6Cm+O6QgDkuQGGOQ@mail.gmail.com>
| 	<87sgu2pnky.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7hp9QRD3RBgfmtjtO4ay4ATA3MF1yxanmr-FnW1NZztbQ@mail.gmail.com>
`----

And here with t.

,----
| To: john foo
| Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
| Subject: Re: [Newton]
| References: <87r2b5flih.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7itB97FnVHjncrucp086yjM_y_OZQ5goO8XORXzfricgw@mail.gmail.com>
| 	<8955D455-6F67-46E6-8148-4287573DDD6C@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7jaUn-nFx3On4UqX-dmS0yr9-52UxqXU=QShQF2gdn4mQ@mail.gmail.com>
| 	<87wokvevev.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7j8Qs0yfqfua1wZCfFcRcGj9ooD2U6Cm+O6QgDkuQGGOQ@mail.gmail.com>
| 	<87sgu2pnky.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
| 	<CANao_7hp9QRD3RBgfmtjtO4ay4ATA3MF1yxanmr-FnW1NZztbQ@mail.gmail.com>
`----


The reference are not deleted so the thread is not ignored,
independently whether I change the subject or not.

Can anybody confirm this, otherwise I send but report.

Uwe Brauer




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* Re: gnus-thread-ignore-subject  seems to stop working
  2019-04-28  9:00 gnus-thread-ignore-subject seems to stop working Uwe Brauer
@ 2019-04-28 17:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2019-04-28 18:16   ` Uwe Brauer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2019-04-28 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Hi
>
> I am using GNU emacs from master (a couple of weeks old with the
> corresponding gnus version).
>
> I noticed that gnus-thread-ignore-subject  seems to stop working
>
>
> Here is a header when replying setting the variable to 
> nil 
>
> ,----
> | To: john foo
> | Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> | Subject: Re: [Newton]
> | References: <87r2b5flih.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7itB97FnVHjncrucp086yjM_y_OZQ5goO8XORXzfricgw@mail.gmail.com>
> | 	<8955D455-6F67-46E6-8148-4287573DDD6C@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7jaUn-nFx3On4UqX-dmS0yr9-52UxqXU=QShQF2gdn4mQ@mail.gmail.com>
> | 	<87wokvevev.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7j8Qs0yfqfua1wZCfFcRcGj9ooD2U6Cm+O6QgDkuQGGOQ@mail.gmail.com>
> | 	<87sgu2pnky.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7hp9QRD3RBgfmtjtO4ay4ATA3MF1yxanmr-FnW1NZztbQ@mail.gmail.com>
> `----
>
> And here with t.
>
> ,----
> | To: john foo
> | Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> | Subject: Re: [Newton]
> | References: <87r2b5flih.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7itB97FnVHjncrucp086yjM_y_OZQ5goO8XORXzfricgw@mail.gmail.com>
> | 	<8955D455-6F67-46E6-8148-4287573DDD6C@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7jaUn-nFx3On4UqX-dmS0yr9-52UxqXU=QShQF2gdn4mQ@mail.gmail.com>
> | 	<87wokvevev.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7j8Qs0yfqfua1wZCfFcRcGj9ooD2U6Cm+O6QgDkuQGGOQ@mail.gmail.com>
> | 	<87sgu2pnky.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
> | 	<CANao_7hp9QRD3RBgfmtjtO4ay4ATA3MF1yxanmr-FnW1NZztbQ@mail.gmail.com>
> `----
>
>
> The reference are not deleted so the thread is not ignored,
> independently whether I change the subject or not.

Are you sure you've got the right variable name?
`gnus-thread-ignore-subject' just means "don't build threads using the
subject header, only respect in-reply-to/references". Changing the
variable will not change message headers; in fact I'm not aware of any
Gnus variables or commands that will delete message headers.

Eric




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* Re: gnus-thread-ignore-subject  seems to stop working
  2019-04-28 17:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2019-04-28 18:16   ` Uwe Brauer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2019-04-28 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

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> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Are you sure you've got the right variable name?
> `gnus-thread-ignore-subject' just means "don't build threads using the
> subject header, only respect in-reply-to/references". Changing the
> variable will not change message headers; in fact I'm not aware of any
> Gnus variables or commands that will delete message headers.

You are right, the references stay, however the resulting message is
then displayed differently.

Look at the following summary display
,----
| 
| []{ }O  57606 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19])    ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6   
| []{ }OA     57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer  [                         ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13   
| []{ }O  57621 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[stuff] (was: [CV])      ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16   
| []{ }O  57585 [  tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li  [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165   
| []{ }O  57593 [  users    ] oub@mat.uc  [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11   
| []{ }O  57604 [  Gestión d] oub@mat.uc  [COMUNICADO AUTOMÁTICO DE ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:13:27 +0200 (CEST) 5.0k 32   
`----
 

Message  57621 was a reply to  57609, but since I change the subject
and have now set 

gnus-thread-ignore-subject to nil, it is no longer part of the thread,
so far so good.


However what I don't understand why it is displayed before   
57585 ???

In my opinion the thread should look like this 


,----
| []{ }O  57606 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19])    ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6   
| []{ }OA     57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer  [                         ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13   
| []{ }O  57585 [  tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li  [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165   
| []{ }O  57593 [  users    ] oub@mat.uc  [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11   
| []{ }O  57604 [  Gestión d] oub@mat.uc  [COMUNICADO AUTOMÁTICO DE ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:13:27 +0200 (CEST) 5.0k 32   
| []{ }O  57621 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[stuff] (was: [CV])      ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16   
`----

Since I have the following setting

(setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
      '(gnus-thread-sort-by-date
        gnus-thread-sort-by-number))

Is this a bug or is there a variable I miss?

I find the current behavior annoying 

Uwe 

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