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* the stars in the group buffer.
@ 2018-09-11 12:34 Uwe Brauer
  2018-09-11 12:41 ` Robert Pluim
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From: Uwe Brauer @ 2018-09-11 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding


Hi

I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
*              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX

What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

Thanks

Uwe Brauer 




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:34 the stars in the group buffer Uwe Brauer
@ 2018-09-11 12:41 ` Robert Pluim
  2018-09-11 21:12   ` Uwe Brauer
  2018-09-11 12:43 ` Luis Henriques
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2018-09-11 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Hi
>
> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>
> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

It means you have articles in that group that have a mark (usually
ticked, ie '!'). You can get rid of the marks by entering the group
with RET, and clearing them using M-u (I think M-u respects the
process mark, so you should be able to do them all at once).

Robert



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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:34 the stars in the group buffer Uwe Brauer
  2018-09-11 12:41 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2018-09-11 12:43 ` Luis Henriques
  2018-09-11 12:45 ` Dave Marquardt
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Luis Henriques @ 2018-09-11 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Uwe Brauer; +Cc: ding

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 02:34:50PM +0200, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
> 
> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

It probably means you have flagged articles in the INBOX group, and to get
rid of it you just need to remove the "%M" from your
gnus-group-line-format.

Cheers,
-- 
Luis



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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:34 the stars in the group buffer Uwe Brauer
  2018-09-11 12:41 ` Robert Pluim
  2018-09-11 12:43 ` Luis Henriques
@ 2018-09-11 12:45 ` Dave Marquardt
  2018-09-11 12:49 ` Gijs Hillenius
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Dave Marquardt @ 2018-09-11 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

I believe it means you have one or more articles ticked or persistent
in that group. The only way I've found to make it go away is to enter
the group and untick the article or remove it from the persistent
articles. Oh, I suppose you could unsubscribe from INBOX but that
seems like overkill :)


-----------------------
On Tue, Sep 11 2018, Uwe Brauer wrote:

Hi

I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
*              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX

What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

Thanks

Uwe Brauer 




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:34 the stars in the group buffer Uwe Brauer
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-09-11 12:45 ` Dave Marquardt
@ 2018-09-11 12:49 ` Gijs Hillenius
  2018-09-11 21:13   ` Uwe Brauer
  2018-09-11 13:00 ` Eric S Fraga
  2018-09-12 22:12 ` what group is hot? (was: Re: the stars in the group buffer.) Emanuel Berg
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Gijs Hillenius @ 2018-09-11 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On 11 September 2018 14:34 Uwe Brauer, wrote:

> Hi
>
> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>
> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

If not tick marks, you want to check the group parameters

I have a few groups I want to see allways, and I use 

 (visible . t)

for that in the group parameters

Use the G p or the G c command to edit group parameters of a group.






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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:34 the stars in the group buffer Uwe Brauer
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-09-11 12:49 ` Gijs Hillenius
@ 2018-09-11 13:00 ` Eric S Fraga
  2018-09-11 13:44   ` Adam Sjøgren
  2018-09-11 15:24   ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
  2018-09-12 22:12 ` what group is hot? (was: Re: the stars in the group buffer.) Emanuel Berg
  5 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-09-11 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> Hi
>
> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>
> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

In my experience, it means that you are visiting that group already
(there's a summary buffer for it).

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 13:00 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2018-09-11 13:44   ` Adam Sjøgren
  2018-09-11 14:20     ` Eric S Fraga
  2018-09-11 15:24   ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2018-09-11 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Eric writes:

> On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>>
>> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
>> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>>
>> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?
>
> In my experience, it means that you are visiting that group already
> (there's a summary buffer for it).

If that is the case, you must have customized the meaning of '*' in the
*Group* buffer:

  "2.1.1 Group Line Specification

  The default format of the group buffer is nice and dull, but you can
  make it as exciting and ugly as you feel like.

  Here’s a couple of example group lines:

       25: news.announce.newusers
   *    0: alt.fan.andrea-dworkin

  Quite simple, huh?

  You can see that there are 25 unread articles in
  ‘news.announce.newusers’. There are no unread articles, but some
  ticked articles, in ‘alt.fan.andrea-dworkin’ (see that little asterisk
  at the beginning of the line?)."

   - http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_12.html#Group-Buffer-Format


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "I've enjoyed seeing C++ catch up to Perl in the past        Adam Sjøgren
  decade or so."                                         asjo@koldfront.dk




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 13:44   ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2018-09-11 14:20     ` Eric S Fraga
  2018-09-11 14:46       ` Robert Pluim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-09-11 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> If that is the case, you must have customized the meaning of '*' in the
> *Group* buffer:

Actually, no... but I *have* customized the group line format so partly
correct!

I have %B in my line which says to mark groups which have summary
buffers with a *.  %M does what you say (indicate marked articles) with
*.  Ummm, maybe gnus should use different symbols for these two very
different purposes?

So, sorry for the noise and thanks for pointing this out.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 14:20     ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2018-09-11 14:46       ` Robert Pluim
  2018-09-11 15:02         ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2018-09-11 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric S Fraga; +Cc: ding

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
>> If that is the case, you must have customized the meaning of '*' in the
>> *Group* buffer:
>
> Actually, no... but I *have* customized the group line format so partly
> correct!
>
> I have %B in my line which says to mark groups which have summary
> buffers with a *.  %M does what you say (indicate marked articles) with
> *.  Ummm, maybe gnus should use different symbols for these two very
> different purposes?

By default they're in different locations, no? Is that not enough? ;-)

Perhaps %M should use '!'?

Robert



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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 14:46       ` Robert Pluim
@ 2018-09-11 15:02         ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-09-11 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 16:46, Robert Pluim wrote:
> By default they're in different locations, no? Is that not enough? ;-)

Well, they may be if you have the default line format.  I don't...

> Perhaps %M should use '!'?

That would quite logical, actually.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 13:00 ` Eric S Fraga
  2018-09-11 13:44   ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2018-09-11 15:24   ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
  2018-09-12  8:48     ` Eric S Fraga
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo @ 2018-09-11 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Eric S Fraga writes:

> On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Uwe Brauer wrote: 
>> Hi 
>> 
>> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see 
>> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX 
>> 
>> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it? 
> 
> In my experience, it means that you are visiting that group 
> already (there's a summary buffer for it).

No, I think that would be:

       8:*gmane.emacs.gnus.general

The star after the number of articles. 

Star right at the beginning of the line means flagged articles in 
the group.

-- 
Jorge.




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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:41 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2018-09-11 21:12   ` Uwe Brauer
  2018-09-12  6:00     ` Gijs Hillenius
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2018-09-11 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

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>>> "Robert" == Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

Hi
> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
>> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>> 
>> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

> It means you have articles in that group that have a mark (usually
> ticked, ie '!'). You can get rid of the marks by entering the group
> with RET, and clearing them using M-u (I think M-u respects the
> process mark, so you should be able to do them all at once).

Is there any command to see all the message with a tick? When I use the
menu and select: «limit to» the tick does not appear.

Uwe 

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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 12:49 ` Gijs Hillenius
@ 2018-09-11 21:13   ` Uwe Brauer
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From: Uwe Brauer @ 2018-09-11 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

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>>> "Gijs" == Gijs Hillenius <gijs@hillenius.net> writes:

> On 11 September 2018 14:34 Uwe Brauer, wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
>> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>> 
>> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?

> If not tick marks, you want to check the group parameters

> I have a few groups I want to see allways, and I use 

>  (visible . t)

Thanks!


> for that in the group parameters

> Use the G p or the G c command to edit group parameters of a group.






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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 21:12   ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2018-09-12  6:00     ` Gijs Hillenius
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Gijs Hillenius @ 2018-09-12  6:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On 11 September 2018 23:12 Uwe Brauer, wrote:

>>>> "Robert" == Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi
>> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my group buffer I see
>>> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>>> 
>>> What does the * mean and how can I get rid of it?
>
>> It means you have articles in that group that have a mark (usually
>> ticked, ie '!'). You can get rid of the marks by entering the group
>> with RET, and clearing them using M-u (I think M-u respects the
>> process mark, so you should be able to do them all at once).
>
> Is there any command to see all the message with a tick? When I use the
> menu and select: «limit to» the tick does not appear.

to see messages marked with a tick (!) in a group, I enter the group and
hit x which is bound to:

gnus-summary-limit-to-unread

I see I could also use: / u,  or the menu <menu-bar> <Gnus> <Limit to>
<Unread>, the latter which you imply is not working for you.





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* Re: the stars in the group buffer.
  2018-09-11 15:24   ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
@ 2018-09-12  8:48     ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-09-12  8:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Tuesday, 11 Sep 2018 at 11:24, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo wrote:
> Eric S Fraga writes:
>> In my experience, it means that you are visiting that group already
>> (there's a summary buffer for it).
>
> No, I think that would be:
>
>       8:*gmane.emacs.gnus.general
>
> The star after the number of articles. 
>
> Star right at the beginning of the line means flagged articles in the
> group.

All true if you haven't customised the group line format... which I did
years ago and forgot about!  
-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.11 on Debian buster/sid




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* what group is hot? (was: Re: the stars in the group buffer.)
  2018-09-11 12:34 the stars in the group buffer Uwe Brauer
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-09-11 13:00 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2018-09-12 22:12 ` Emanuel Berg
  2018-09-12 23:52   ` what group is hot? Eric Abrahamsen
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2018-09-12 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Uwe Brauer wrote:

> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my
> group buffer I see
>
> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>
> What does the * mean and how can I get rid
> of it?

Again, `gnus-group-line-format' :)

I know I asked this before, but I have
forgotten the answer. This time, I'll kill the
disfavored group and be done with it. So: is it
encouraged to use

    gmane.emacs.gnus.general

or

    gmane.emacs.gnus.user

?

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573




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* Re: what group is hot?
  2018-09-12 22:12 ` what group is hot? (was: Re: the stars in the group buffer.) Emanuel Berg
@ 2018-09-12 23:52   ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2018-09-13  5:44     ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2018-09-12 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:

> Uwe Brauer wrote:
>
>> I forgot to ask this a long time ago: in my
>> group buffer I see
>>
>> *              0: nnimap+gmail:INBOX
>>
>> What does the * mean and how can I get rid
>> of it?
>
> Again, `gnus-group-line-format' :)
>
> I know I asked this before, but I have
> forgotten the answer. This time, I'll kill the
> disfavored group and be done with it. So: is it
> encouraged to use
>
>     gmane.emacs.gnus.general
>
> or
>
>     gmane.emacs.gnus.user

I'd be curious to hear what people think, as well. It seems pretty clear
to me that gnus.general has higher traffic. And I think the days when it
was necessary to separate Gnus developer discussion from Gnus user
discussion are behind us...

Eric




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* Re: what group is hot?
  2018-09-12 23:52   ` what group is hot? Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2018-09-13  5:44     ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2018-09-13  5:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Wednesday, 12 Sep 2018 at 16:52, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:
>> I know I asked this before, but I have
>> forgotten the answer. This time, I'll kill the
>> disfavored group and be done with it. So: is it
>> encouraged to use
>>
>>     gmane.emacs.gnus.general
>>
>> or
>>
>>     gmane.emacs.gnus.user
>
> I'd be curious to hear what people think, as well. It seems pretty clear
> to me that gnus.general has higher traffic. And I think the days when it
> was necessary to separate Gnus developer discussion from Gnus user
> discussion are behind us...

I only subscribe to gnus.general.  It's the one mirroring the ding
mailing list.
-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid




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